1 00:00:01,350 --> 00:00:02,183 Starting now. 2 00:00:02,860 --> 00:00:07,070 Commonalities where guests find common ground through uncommon 3 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:10,710 conversations, politics, religion, finances, 4 00:00:11,010 --> 00:00:14,390 all the topics your grandmother told you not to discuss with friends. 5 00:00:14,930 --> 00:00:17,350 And now your host, Matthew Dowling, 6 00:00:17,770 --> 00:00:20,390 and today's guests on commonalities. 7 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:26,990 Well, thanks for joining us for another episode of Commonalities. 8 00:00:27,010 --> 00:00:28,110 I'm their host, Matt Dowling, 9 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:32,910 and my guest today is a friend and former colleague of mine, um, 10 00:00:33,140 --> 00:00:34,230 Eric Zo. 11 00:00:34,340 --> 00:00:38,710 He's the state representative in the lower half of West Morling County, 12 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:41,830 um, representative Devan. So do we have you there? 13 00:00:42,730 --> 00:00:43,710 Yep, I am here. Matthew. 14 00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:47,390 Hey, thank you so much for joining us. Uh, at the top of the program here. 15 00:00:47,510 --> 00:00:51,870 I wanted to give you the opportunity to do a little bit of a self introduction 16 00:00:51,890 --> 00:00:55,950 and tell us a little bit about, uh, your background and, uh, 17 00:00:56,170 --> 00:00:59,150 and how long you've been in the house and maybe the committees you serve. 18 00:00:59,970 --> 00:01:02,420 Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, fir well, first off, you know, 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,020 we do miss you out in the house and, uh, you know, 20 00:01:05,020 --> 00:01:07,460 thank you for this opportunity here. Um, 21 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:11,140 I know you introduced me as having the lower or the southern portion of 22 00:01:11,140 --> 00:01:15,780 Westmoreland County, but it is also the better portion of Westmoreland County. 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,740 Um, so once again, state representative Eric Zo, 58 District, 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,860 uh, my municipalities, we cover men, Ross Traver, east Huntington, 25 00:01:25,870 --> 00:01:30,300 south Huntington, Swickly Township. I have, uh, Menen Burrow, 26 00:01:30,370 --> 00:01:33,100 Scottdale Burrow, west Newton Borough, hunker Borough. 27 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,620 We go into a little bit of Mount Pleasant Township, I think for the most part, 28 00:01:38,620 --> 00:01:42,580 that covers everything. Um, and oddly enough, tomorrow, 29 00:01:42,710 --> 00:01:47,260 March 17th would mark three years since my special election that I became a 30 00:01:47,260 --> 00:01:50,980 house member. So, you know, looking back, it seems like I've been here forever, 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,500 but it also, at the same point in time, it's like, wow, where did, 32 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:58,540 where did those three hours go? Or I mean, those three years go, you know, 33 00:01:58,650 --> 00:02:03,220 look how fast its went by. Um, also in, in my past, I, 34 00:02:03,420 --> 00:02:07,060 I come from the building trades I had labored for, for roughly 10 years, 35 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:10,260 and then I had switched over to the carpenter's union for about another 11 36 00:02:10,260 --> 00:02:13,420 years. Uh, still carry my card to this day. You know, 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,500 I'm still that blue collar worker. I, I don't change my work ethics. Um, 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,340 and also the committees I'm on are state government, 39 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,940 transportation and game and fisheries. 40 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:25,100 Well, you know, you, uh, 41 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:29,300 you mentioned your background having been a union laborer and a union carpenter, 42 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:33,940 and I wanna start our conversation off today. Um, kind of coming from, 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,100 uh, from that side of things, you know, 44 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:39,940 I was always a fan of the, uh, 45 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:43,070 of the trades unions. Uh, and, 46 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:47,350 and sometimes people look at us as Republicans and say, you know, 47 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:52,030 Republicans that are, uh, a fan of unions, you know, public sector unions, 48 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:55,630 I always, uh, took up some criticism with, but, uh, 49 00:02:55,650 --> 00:02:58,390 but those private sector trade unions, I think is, 50 00:02:58,810 --> 00:03:03,000 is one of the best ways for young people to get the training they need, 51 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:08,000 the skills they need and to, uh, get out into the workforce. But, 52 00:03:08,060 --> 00:03:10,520 uh, I, I wanted to bring up, uh, 53 00:03:10,750 --> 00:03:15,360 some labor issues that I know that you're working on. Um, last session, 54 00:03:15,420 --> 00:03:19,120 we had house Bill 1104, and, uh, 55 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,120 if you want to give a little bit of background on that and, uh, 56 00:03:22,150 --> 00:03:26,160 tell us what you're doing this session to, uh, to try to, uh, 57 00:03:26,190 --> 00:03:27,560 help out the building trades. 58 00:03:28,110 --> 00:03:29,240 Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. 59 00:03:29,260 --> 00:03:31,600 But first I want to touch on something you brought in, you know, 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,200 as Republicans supporting the, the private sector unions. You know, you, 61 00:03:35,220 --> 00:03:39,920 you kind of do get looked at funny, but, but also, let's look at it as at, 62 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:41,200 at another angle here. 63 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:45,040 So you have a kid who could graduate high school at the age of 18, 64 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:49,880 spend four to five years in an apprenticeship, come out of that apprenticeship, 65 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:50,760 you know, making, 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,280 making 30 th or I guess $30 an hour plus you have benefits, 67 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:58,520 you have pension, uh, you have a savings and annuity on that. 68 00:03:58,780 --> 00:04:00,880 And these are good family sustaining jobs. 69 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:04,240 And also these people that come out with these jobs, you know, 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,400 there's not a lot of government money, if any, um, invested in, 71 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:11,440 in getting this job. You know, it's a win-win. We're, we're teaching, 72 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:14,960 we're teaching people to, to be American, right? Go out and get a job, 73 00:04:15,020 --> 00:04:19,880 be self-sufficient, start a family, um, don't be a burden on society, 74 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:23,400 you know, be self-sufficient. So I just had to throw that in there. 75 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:28,080 But house Bill 1104 is, uh, transparency on a construction site. 76 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:32,680 And all it does is right now in the state of Pennsylvania on a building permit, 77 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:36,680 you just have to list the crime contractors on a job. 78 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:41,680 What my bill does is it goes one step farther and every subcontractor 79 00:04:41,700 --> 00:04:46,490 on a job has to be listed. So, in a sense, what this does is, you know, 80 00:04:46,490 --> 00:04:48,330 you have some bad actors out there who, 81 00:04:48,630 --> 00:04:52,970 who really participate in misclassification. And what misclassification is, 82 00:04:52,970 --> 00:04:56,330 is you have a guy on a job who you're paying him labor's wages, 83 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:59,250 but he's actually doing carpenter work. Uh, you know, 84 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:02,850 he could be doing electrical work. He's really performing a task and, 85 00:05:02,850 --> 00:05:04,970 and really not earning the wage that he should. 86 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:08,730 And we have numerous contractors who repeatedly do this. 87 00:05:09,150 --> 00:05:12,890 And this is just the way of, whether it's a local code enforcement officer, 88 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:15,170 keeping an eye on a guy, um, 89 00:05:15,470 --> 00:05:18,610 or even if you know someone from the Department of Labor and industry would come 90 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:21,690 out, you know, Hey, listen, how many times are you on a job site? When, 91 00:05:21,970 --> 00:05:24,650 whenever I would leave, um, and you come back and there was, 92 00:05:24,650 --> 00:05:27,330 there would be crews come in throughout the night, you know, work's done, 93 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:29,450 things are done. You know, it wasn't on the up and up, 94 00:05:29,990 --> 00:05:33,010 and there was no questions asked. And, you know, on this, 95 00:05:33,010 --> 00:05:34,130 people don't look at it. But, 96 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:36,770 but what about the tax money that's not being collected? You know, 97 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:40,050 these guys are paid cash under the table when they get hurt, 98 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,530 they have no insurance. Uh, who foots the bill for all that? And, and we do. 99 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:49,410 And, you know, I, I don't know that 1104 is necessarily the perfect answer. 100 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:52,410 It, it, it may not be the piece that completely wipes this out, 101 00:05:52,410 --> 00:05:55,410 but it's definitely an incremental change in the, you know, 102 00:05:55,410 --> 00:05:58,360 possibly the next step to, uh, enforcing some of these things. 103 00:05:59,260 --> 00:06:02,870 Sure. So where is that bill right now? Has it been referred to a, 104 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:05,310 a committee this session? Um, you know, 105 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:09,430 when would that potentially be taken up and how could, uh, 106 00:06:09,430 --> 00:06:13,670 members of our trade unions that wanna see this bill passed, uh, you know, 107 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:17,750 how can they help you out? Who should they contact, uh, and and so forth? 108 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:23,440 Yeah, so right now, the, the bill still, um, sits, I, I didn't introduce it yet. 109 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:28,160 You know, we had the, the turnover in the house. The house wasn't organized. Um, 110 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:31,200 now that we have the house organized, I'm just starting to look on it. 111 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,640 Probably gonna make a few tweaks on it, um, to really get the bill out there. 112 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:35,920 You know, 113 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,560 maybe we put a dollar amount on it because we know that these happened. 114 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:44,440 Like this instance really happens on our hotels, condominiums, um, 115 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,400 anywhere there's a lot of stucco on a building drive it, I should say the, 116 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:52,240 the correct term terminology for that. Um, so, you know, maybe, 117 00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:56,800 maybe we come ined, hey, any job under 10 million, it would be, you know, 118 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,200 maybe residential living or, or something like that. Um, 119 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:03,880 just to try to get that pushed. Because what happens is people look at this as, 120 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:06,680 Hey, listen, I've come from the building trades. I support 'em. 121 00:07:06,750 --> 00:07:08,280 This is a union backed bill. 122 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:10,920 They're just gonna go out and target the non-union guys. And listen, 123 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,160 that is the last thing that, that we want. 124 00:07:13,460 --> 00:07:18,440 And I'm actually working with three non-union firms in Westmoreland County to 125 00:07:18,460 --> 00:07:22,880 try to get this a win for everybody, because this isn't a union non-union issue. 126 00:07:22,990 --> 00:07:27,400 This is really a construction industry, uh, situation here. So, and, and, 127 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:30,080 and how we could help is, you know, um, 128 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:31,920 the building trades need to reach out to, 129 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,000 to the members that are supportive of them and back them and say, you know, 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,960 listen, this is a, a piece of legislation that we're looking for. You know, 131 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,440 it may not be perfect, but that incremental changes is where it's at. 132 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,320 And I think if we would start it, we could always tweak it, you know, 133 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,153 down the road. 134 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,660 Now as we're talking about, uh, you know, what's going on on job sites, uh, I, 135 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:55,380 I can't help, but, uh, but to think of, uh, 136 00:07:55,410 --> 00:08:00,260 some of the illegal immigrants that are actually working on job sites. And, 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,460 and some of them are, uh, 138 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,220 are being forced into working on sites through labor exploitation 139 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,620 and labor trafficking. I know we talk a lot about, uh, 140 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:14,740 human trafficking, or maybe not even as much as we should, 141 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,060 but that's a little bit more of a popular term. But I don't know that, uh, 142 00:08:19,060 --> 00:08:24,020 that our listeners know a whole lot about the labor exploitation and the 143 00:08:24,020 --> 00:08:28,820 labor trafficking that's going on on some construction job sites here in the 144 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:29,653 United States. 145 00:08:30,540 --> 00:08:34,070 Yeah. You know, definitely. So, you know, we have labor brokers out there. 146 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:37,070 They get ahold of these illegals, they bring them in, 147 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:40,750 and they actually sell their services to a labor broker. And, you know, 148 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:44,590 this labor broker could be no more than than another illegal, um, 149 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:49,150 or they could be unlawful citizen that has a, that has a form of transportation. 150 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:52,550 You know, they, they pick up these illegals, they take 'em to job sites, 151 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:57,050 sell their services, but also, you know, we're finding out that, you know, 152 00:08:57,050 --> 00:09:00,490 it's not just the labor trafficking, sex trafficking comes into it, you know, 153 00:09:00,550 --> 00:09:02,970 it ultimately, they're both human trafficking, but, 154 00:09:02,970 --> 00:09:06,370 but also it comes with that is that dark world of, of drugs and just, 155 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,650 just illegal activity, you know? And it does, 156 00:09:10,110 --> 00:09:14,610 it does exist in Westmoreland County. You know, we have, uh, we have a, um, 157 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,450 some evidence of a construction site here that is doing it. Um, 158 00:09:18,450 --> 00:09:21,690 trying to work with some, some local law enforcement, you know, 159 00:09:21,690 --> 00:09:23,810 to try to get out there, see what we can do with it. 160 00:09:24,270 --> 00:09:28,170 One of the issues that we have though, is right now, department of Labor, 161 00:09:28,300 --> 00:09:32,850 labor and industry is lacking enforcement officers. You know, I, 162 00:09:32,930 --> 00:09:37,130 I think they have four for the state, and it just really isn't enough. And, 163 00:09:37,130 --> 00:09:40,010 and once again, this isn't a union non-union issue. 164 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,930 This is a construction industry issue. You know, once again, 165 00:09:43,930 --> 00:09:48,170 these guys are here. One, they're here illegally. Um, and I don't know, listen, 166 00:09:48,290 --> 00:09:52,690 I don't support it, and I know you don't support that anyway, um, but, you know, 167 00:09:52,690 --> 00:09:55,890 moving the step forward, you know, these guys are coming in, um, 168 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,370 it's not fair in the bidding process. They're coming in underbidding, everybody. 169 00:09:59,990 --> 00:10:04,890 Um, but the, the broker himself, he's making the money, right? He's in, 170 00:10:04,890 --> 00:10:08,770 then return pocketing all this money and giving peanuts to the workers, the, 171 00:10:08,830 --> 00:10:11,690 the guys that are here illegal now for these illegals, 172 00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:14,730 I'm sure it's a win-win situation, because wherever they came from, 173 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,170 this is probably the most money that they've ever seen, are, you know, 174 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:23,360 earned abso and, and if Absolutely, I'm sorry, cut you off. 175 00:10:23,380 --> 00:10:27,440 But if you think back to, I wanna say last year at this time, 176 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:32,320 there was an execution south shooting in Ross Traver, um, 177 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:36,320 that was over worker, um, labor trafficking. 178 00:10:36,660 --> 00:10:37,840 That's all that was about. 179 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,000 There was a guy there that was stealing some other workers off somebody else, 180 00:10:41,620 --> 00:10:44,800 and they didn't like it. And, and you see how it ended. Um, 181 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:46,440 so whenever you're gonna go out and, 182 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:50,240 and you're gonna commit murder to protect your investment, you know, 183 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,320 you better believe that there's huge amounts of money here. And, um, you know, 184 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,560 I, they're not gonna stop sure of protecting what they're doing. 185 00:10:56,950 --> 00:10:57,440 Well, and, 186 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,080 and I think that's extremely concerning to know that that's happening in our, 187 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:03,320 our varying neighborhoods. Uh, you know, 188 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:06,520 you have some evidence to it happening in Westmoreland County, 189 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:09,840 I'm sure it's going on here in Fayette County as well. Um, 190 00:11:09,980 --> 00:11:12,840 and all through southwestern Pennsylvania. So I, 191 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,720 I think we have to support the Department of Labor and Industry. And, 192 00:11:17,060 --> 00:11:20,800 and while I'm, you know, not a, a huge fan, um, 193 00:11:20,930 --> 00:11:25,040 being a conservative myself of adding additional, um, 194 00:11:25,730 --> 00:11:29,800 additional bureaucracy, I think, uh, hey, as you stated, 195 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:33,920 you only have four people that are doing that enforcement. So, uh, you know, 196 00:11:33,940 --> 00:11:37,840 we have to give the tools to the department so that, uh, 197 00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:40,520 so that they can make sure that these things aren't happening. 198 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:44,480 We have to get to our first break today, uh, representative Zo. 199 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,320 But when we come back, 200 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,600 I wanna talk a little bit about the state budget proposal that Governor Josh 201 00:11:49,630 --> 00:11:54,160 Shapiro just rolled out. And you guys, uh, heard about very different budget, 202 00:11:54,620 --> 00:11:58,440 uh, proposal than what we heard from his predecessor, Tom Wolf. 203 00:11:58,460 --> 00:12:01,520 But I want to get your, uh, your thoughts and feelings on that. 204 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,760 We'll be right back here on commonalities. 205 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:10,960 You are listening to commonalities where guests find common ground through 206 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:12,800 uncommon conversations. 207 00:12:13,530 --> 00:12:16,800 We'll be back after this brief break to recognize our sponsors. 208 00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:23,840 Is your business using analog strategies in a digital marketing world? 209 00:12:24,420 --> 00:12:25,030 If so, 210 00:12:25,030 --> 00:12:29,480 then contact Matthew or Rebecca Dowling at Coordinated 360 for a 211 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,720 professional consultation where we bring in-depth knowledge and functional 212 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:35,640 expertise with a holistic perspective. 213 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Coordinated 360 provides digital marketing, paid ad and media buying services, 214 00:12:41,420 --> 00:12:46,040 web design, social media management, video production, and more for businesses, 215 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,680 organizations, and political campaigns with decades of experience. 216 00:12:50,830 --> 00:12:55,360 Matt and Becky at Coordinated 360 can help you craft your unique message 217 00:12:55,780 --> 00:13:00,560 and share it with the world. For a no risk media evaluation and recommendations, 218 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:04,720 call 7 2 4 3 2 0 22 12, 219 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:07,160 or visit us online at 220 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:12,680 www.coordinatedthreesixty.com. Find us also on Facebook, 221 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:14,040 Instagram, and Twitter, 222 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:17,960 or email info coordinated three sixty.com. 223 00:13:20,110 --> 00:13:25,080 When it comes to buying a home, what you see isn't exactly what you get. 224 00:13:25,940 --> 00:13:30,840 That's why home buyers should call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections 225 00:13:31,180 --> 00:13:35,080 at 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 226 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:40,360 You'll see colorful flowers, freshly painted walls, granite countertops, 227 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:42,960 gleaming hardwood floors, and other touches. 228 00:13:43,470 --> 00:13:47,440 What you can't see is the cracks, ancient plumbing, 229 00:13:47,950 --> 00:13:49,000 dangerous wiring, 230 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:54,440 or broken appliances that might be revealed when you hire a home 231 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:57,880 inspector. And when it comes to home inspectors, 232 00:13:58,150 --> 00:14:02,040 knowing yours has the qualifications and experience needed, 233 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:04,480 should be your number one concern. 234 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:09,640 Dave Dowling with Grand View Inspections is an architectural engineer 235 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:14,720 with over 30 years of commercial construction experience and hundreds of 236 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,200 inspections under his belt. 237 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,000 A home inspection is an opportunity for you to hire an expert to walk 238 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,960 through the home and prepare a report outlining the home's major components. 239 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:32,280 What needs immediate attention and what will require maintenance after you move 240 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,520 in Your home is one of your biggest investments. 241 00:14:35,860 --> 00:14:39,760 So make sure your investment is everything you hoped it to be. 242 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:43,640 Call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections at 243 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,400 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 244 00:14:54,790 --> 00:14:55,890 Are you enjoying the program? 245 00:14:55,910 --> 00:15:00,090 You're listening to support commonalities and help keep us on the air by making 246 00:15:00,170 --> 00:15:02,890 a donation of five, 10, or $25, 247 00:15:03,270 --> 00:15:08,210 or any amount you feel comfortable sharing online@donate.commonalities.online. 248 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:12,770 Again, that is donate.commonalities.online on the worldwide web. 249 00:15:13,230 --> 00:15:17,810 Buy our host a cup of coffee or help pay for airtime at donate dot commonalities 250 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:18,743 online. 251 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:29,810 Hey, Fayette County ready to give a helping hand and have a lot of fun in the 252 00:15:29,810 --> 00:15:33,810 process. Then come out to the Town Senior Center on Saturday, 253 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:38,810 March 25th from 11:00 AM to 6:00 PM for a peri making party, 254 00:15:39,270 --> 00:15:42,330 hosted by me, Matt Dowling, and my wife Rebecca. 255 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:45,930 As we make enough to feed 200 of our local seniors, 256 00:15:46,350 --> 00:15:50,970 get all the details at www.matthewddowling.com. 257 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:55,350 I'm Melinda de LaRose. As an Assistant District Attorney, 258 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:59,390 I've protected Fayette County families and fought to uphold our constitutional 259 00:15:59,390 --> 00:16:02,190 rights. As a prosecutor and trusted local attorney, 260 00:16:02,380 --> 00:16:06,110 I've provided victims of crime with a strong voice and put criminals behind 261 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:09,630 bars. My pledge to you as Judge is to follow the law, 262 00:16:09,690 --> 00:16:11,950 always maintain the highest ethical standards, 263 00:16:12,090 --> 00:16:16,310 and to run a courtroom that's respectful of your time and tax dollars. 264 00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:20,150 I'm Melinda de LaRose asking for your vote for Judge paid. 265 00:16:20,150 --> 00:16:21,790 For by Friends of Melinda de LaRose. 266 00:16:24,970 --> 00:16:29,390 You are listening to commonalities where guests find common ground through 267 00:16:29,750 --> 00:16:30,950 Uncommon Conversations. 268 00:16:32,620 --> 00:16:35,590 Well, thanks for staying with us here on Commonalities. I'm your host, 269 00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:39,830 Matt Dowling. Uh, and before we move on with additional, uh, 270 00:16:40,190 --> 00:16:43,150 questions for our guests today, I wanted to again, 271 00:16:43,150 --> 00:16:47,790 make the public announcement that, uh, we are willing to bring any candidate, 272 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:52,830 Democrat or Republican, uh, on the program here before the, uh, 273 00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:54,830 the upcoming primary election. 274 00:16:55,210 --> 00:16:58,750 If you'd like to get scheduled as a guest and you're running for any public 275 00:16:58,750 --> 00:17:03,230 office that includes, uh, school board, uh, judicial candidates, 276 00:17:03,810 --> 00:17:08,190 uh, county commissioner candidates, et cetera, um, reach out to me. 277 00:17:08,210 --> 00:17:11,110 You can find my email and all my contact information at 278 00:17:11,930 --> 00:17:16,550 www.matthewdasindaviddowling.com. Uh, 279 00:17:16,550 --> 00:17:20,110 that's kind of your starting place for all things involving, uh, 280 00:17:20,110 --> 00:17:21,670 commonalities and et cetera. 281 00:17:22,570 --> 00:17:26,910 My guest today is Representative Eric Zo from the Southern part of 282 00:17:26,910 --> 00:17:31,390 Westmoreland County. And, uh, representative Zo, this is your year off. 283 00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:35,670 You don't have to, uh, have to run in this year's election. I remember how, uh, 284 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:40,310 in those two year terms, that year in between was, uh, was kind of a year to, 285 00:17:40,690 --> 00:17:42,710 to breathe a little bit, but, uh, 286 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:46,830 you don't get to take too long of a breath because before you know it, uh, 287 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:51,800 you'll be in reelection mode once again. Um, so we, we, 288 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,560 before the break, we said we were gonna talk about the governor's budget, and, 289 00:17:55,580 --> 00:18:00,560 uh, I've done a, a fair amount of reading and listening to, uh, 290 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:04,320 to the things that were, uh, were provided to, 291 00:18:04,540 --> 00:18:07,560 to the house and to the Senate as ideas, uh, 292 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:11,920 to start off the budget by, uh, governor Shapiro. And, 293 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:17,000 and I noticed that it was quite different from some of the proposals, uh, 294 00:18:17,110 --> 00:18:20,800 that Governor Wolf had given to us. There were some good things in there, 295 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:24,600 and there were some bad things in there. Wanted to get your take on, uh, 296 00:18:24,660 --> 00:18:26,720 on all things Pennsylvania budget. 297 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:31,720 Yeah, yeah, definitely. And so this budget addressed, 298 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760 it was more like the State of the Union. Um, you know, 299 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:37,120 it was definitely the way it was presented, uh, 300 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:40,600 the way Governor Shapiro come in, definitely just a different demeanor, 301 00:18:40,630 --> 00:18:45,520 just a different tone all the way around it. But in his budget proposal, I, 302 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,680 I believe he was around 44 billion, 303 00:18:48,690 --> 00:18:52,640 which was just about an 8% increase in spending. Um, 304 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:57,420 which at the end of the day, we could have all good things in it. 305 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,820 We can all want it, but we have to remember that we cannot outpace our, 306 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,980 uh, money collected. Right. 307 00:19:03,980 --> 00:19:08,340 Well, you know, and you know, and, and I don't mean to cut you off there, uh, 308 00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:10,980 Eric, but you know, when I came into the house, 309 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,380 the first budget that I worked on was below 32 billion. 310 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,460 So now we're talking about 44 billion. And really it's only been seven years, 311 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,860 uh, you know, in that period that we've seen, uh, 312 00:19:24,890 --> 00:19:28,340 that state budget inflate. And I just wanted to kind of make the, 313 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:33,140 the point for our listeners of how fast that budget has grown and, 314 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:36,340 and we're talking billions of dollars and, uh, 315 00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:40,020 and not talking about what's kept off the books because it's federal funding 316 00:19:40,170 --> 00:19:45,100 that, uh, that gets passed through the state, um, which makes our, 317 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,100 our state's annual, uh, 318 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:51,820 budget more like 80 billion if I remember correctly. But, uh, I, 319 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:55,540 I apologize for cutting you off. I wanna let you, your continue with, uh, 320 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:56,860 with your thoughts on this budget. 321 00:19:57,660 --> 00:19:59,150 Yeah. And, and, you know, to, to, 322 00:19:59,150 --> 00:20:02,310 to get to your point on in inflating the budget, you know, 323 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:07,030 both parties do it because it, it seems like now this will be my fourth budget, 324 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:08,870 uh, proposal process, 325 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:12,670 but it seems like as we get closer to June, 326 00:20:12,730 --> 00:20:14,510 as we get closer to that deadline, 327 00:20:14,850 --> 00:20:17,950 we focus more on just getting the budget done. And, 328 00:20:17,950 --> 00:20:21,110 and I really think that that's a mistake for us. Um, 329 00:20:21,250 --> 00:20:23,270 and I also think in the upcoming years, you know, 330 00:20:23,290 --> 00:20:27,740 two to three years down the road, we're gonna have to answer for that. Um, 331 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,540 and I don't think it's gonna be a good answer. Um, 332 00:20:30,660 --> 00:20:32,540 I do not support raising taxes. I, 333 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:36,620 I believe there's enough pork in our budget that, you know, we can, 334 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,220 we can cut out multiple things here. Um, but one of the issues that, 335 00:20:42,290 --> 00:20:46,580 that Governor Shapiro had had mentioned was he's gonna put 336 00:20:46,580 --> 00:20:51,240 900 million in the state police fund. They're gonna be funded separately, 337 00:20:51,260 --> 00:20:55,560 cuz if I believe it right now, aren't they funded through the, um, l cb? 338 00:20:55,850 --> 00:20:58,440 Isn't there portion of money that that comes into that? 339 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:00,120 There, there is, 340 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:04,000 there's also some funding for the state police that comes out of the, 341 00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:07,240 the gas tax, uh, that we have here in Pennsylvania. 342 00:21:07,380 --> 00:21:10,120 And I don't want to get off on a tangent on that. Yeah. 343 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:14,480 But I know our listeners, um, definitely have some complaints about, uh, 344 00:21:14,550 --> 00:21:18,200 what is is the highest, or perhaps the second highest at this point, 345 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:23,440 gas tax throughout, uh, the United States. Um, and I, and I never agreed, 346 00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:27,960 uh, this was done under a Republican governor under Governor Corbit years ago. 347 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,000 Um, but you know, 348 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,280 that state police funding instead of being a separate line item, was, uh, 349 00:21:34,340 --> 00:21:38,040 was rolled into the gas tax with some other revenues coming from other line 350 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:43,040 items. But I really think that we should be supporting our law enforcement and, 351 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,600 and making them their own line item, uh, which I believe is, 352 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,760 is what Governor Shapiro was talking about. 353 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,170 Yeah. And, and you know, that's, listen, I, 354 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:54,850 I agree a hundred percent with that because one of the issues that, 355 00:21:54,850 --> 00:21:59,210 that we hear, especially back home right now, is we have lack of, 356 00:21:59,270 --> 00:22:01,330 of just law enforcement officers. 357 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:06,410 And when you look at what's going on in the city, Allegheny County, you know, 358 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:11,370 Harrisburg Philadelphia, they're not prosecuting crimes. So what happens, uh, 359 00:22:11,370 --> 00:22:15,330 it just keeps growing and growing and, and it spews out into rural pa and, 360 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:17,410 and now it's starting to really affect us. And, 361 00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:19,930 and we don't have the law enforcement officers to, 362 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:24,250 to really go out there and crack down on it. So anytime we can support, 363 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,730 support our officers in, in gray, you know, listen, uh, gladly do that. 364 00:22:29,310 --> 00:22:32,210 Um, and I think that is, that is truly needed. You know, 365 00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:37,050 we can get them their own fund. Because if you remember, um, it may have been, 366 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:41,650 I, I can't remember the bill, but one of the bills we were going to, uh, 367 00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:45,810 reduce the amount of spending and right away the party from across the aisle, 368 00:22:46,190 --> 00:22:48,730 Hey, listen, you guys are defunding the police, and well, listen, 369 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:53,010 we are the last party that's out there defending the police or defunding the 370 00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:57,890 police, you know? Um, so yeah, so they'll get their own, their own line item, 371 00:22:57,890 --> 00:23:02,370 their own money. We, we can adjust it. Uh, but 400 new state troopers, uh, 372 00:23:02,370 --> 00:23:05,650 something that this commonwealth needs. Um, another, 373 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,610 another good thing in there, I think that what, 374 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:11,530 what Governor Shapiro did is he wants to speed up the permitting process with 375 00:23:11,530 --> 00:23:14,850 the D e P. You know, we get lots of calls, um, Hey, listen, 376 00:23:14,850 --> 00:23:18,130 we want come to Pennsylvania, we come in, we can't get permits, 377 00:23:18,130 --> 00:23:21,810 we can't get permits to even move, move any kind of dirt. Um, 378 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:24,210 and let alone whenever you get 'em, you get 'em back. 379 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:29,610 The issues that were on the permit are resolved, and now there's 15 more. So, 380 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:33,130 you know, this fourth level of government, this bureaucracy that we live in, 381 00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:37,010 it needs addressed with, you know, with our declining population, 382 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:41,010 our youth is leaving the state. We need to create more jobs, 383 00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:45,090 we need good businesses, we need good family sustaining jobs here. Um, 384 00:23:45,290 --> 00:23:49,860 which would be great for us, for us, especially in our, in our region here. Um, 385 00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:55,450 one thing that I think he did that I, that I liked was, you know, my background, 386 00:23:55,530 --> 00:23:58,050 I was outta high school. I went to the building trades, you know, 387 00:23:58,050 --> 00:24:01,730 him waving the, the, the college requirement for, for state jobs was, 388 00:24:01,790 --> 00:24:05,530 was great in there. Um, and on the other hand, one thing that he, 389 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,670 he's trying to get in there is to raise the minimum wage to $15. I don't know. 390 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:14,630 Listen, seven and a quarter isn't a livable wage, but also, 391 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:20,110 isn't it supposed to be a, a baseline wage so that you get a job, um, 392 00:24:20,130 --> 00:24:24,150 you know, you learn a value of a dollar, but you also, we, it, it's lower. 393 00:24:24,330 --> 00:24:29,070 So you go out and through building yourself up, you want to improve yourself, 394 00:24:29,090 --> 00:24:30,750 you wanna move up to that better job, 395 00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:35,790 and to raise that four to $15 an hour, um, to me, 396 00:24:36,530 --> 00:24:39,870 I'm not a fan of it. I, I think the market should drive that minimum wage. 397 00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:43,430 And I think right now, and, and I could probably say that our region, 398 00:24:43,580 --> 00:24:47,870 Fayette and West Morgan County, you know, that that minimum wage is probably 11, 399 00:24:47,870 --> 00:24:52,710 $12 an hour because you can see it at, at your subways, your McDonald's, 400 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:56,750 your gas stations, you know, they're, they're paying $15 an hour, if not more, 401 00:24:56,750 --> 00:25:01,430 with a, with a $2,500 signing bonus, right? So, hey, you, you make it six weeks, 402 00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:05,710 we'll give you 400 bucks. Um, kind of keep going with that. And, 403 00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:09,350 you know, like I said, I, I really believe the market should drive it. 404 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,290 Yeah. I, I always thought that minimum wage would, uh, 405 00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:18,370 would most effectively be, um, be linked to, uh, 406 00:25:18,790 --> 00:25:23,570 an, an automatic increase with, uh, with what the, uh, 407 00:25:23,910 --> 00:25:25,370 the inflation rate was. 408 00:25:25,630 --> 00:25:29,610 And very similar to how COLA increases in, uh, 409 00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:34,130 in the state government work, where there's that automatic increase based on, 410 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:38,970 uh, you know, what the cost of living actually is. Uh, it, 411 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:41,410 it would make sense that we follow some format like that. 412 00:25:41,410 --> 00:25:46,410 It would give businesses a, a chance to plan, uh, for the future. But, 413 00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:51,130 uh, but that's not what we're seeing. We're seeing, uh, requests for these, um, 414 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:53,250 not incremental jumps, but for, 415 00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:58,290 for some really huge jumps that could really catch a small business, uh, 416 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,223 off guard. 417 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,410 Yeah. You know, definitely. Um, and like I said, I, I, 418 00:26:03,530 --> 00:26:06,890 I really think the market needs to drive. But then, listen, if it's, you know, 419 00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:09,850 seven and a quarter and you're a small mom and pop shop and, 420 00:26:09,850 --> 00:26:13,250 and you have a great employee that comes to work on time, they're honest, 421 00:26:13,310 --> 00:26:17,210 you're gonna, you're gonna pay them more money naturally, you know, and, 422 00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:21,330 and listen, anytime government gets involved, set wages, you know, we, 423 00:26:21,330 --> 00:26:25,610 in a government it seems like, how many times do we get it right, , 424 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,210 you know what I mean? So I, 425 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:30,850 I don't feel that that wage should be set by the government. Um, and also, 426 00:26:30,850 --> 00:26:32,770 you know, the other changes manufacturing, 427 00:26:32,790 --> 00:26:36,970 cuz what happens whenever you have a manufacturer worker who's making $20 an 428 00:26:36,970 --> 00:26:40,050 hour, now all of a sudden somebody at cheats is at 18. You know, 429 00:26:40,050 --> 00:26:43,050 they're gonna go to their employee, get their employer and say, Hey, listen, 430 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,560 I need a raise now. 431 00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:49,760 Well, and, and, and you, you mentioned Sheets and I, I love sheets. I, 432 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,000 I go and get an mto, uh, can, you know, fill the car up with gas. Um, 433 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:55,040 I just pulled up their, 434 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:59,400 their jobs website and they have a store entry level store team member, 435 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:04,400 uh, that they're hiring at, at one of their Pennsylvania locations. 436 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,240 Starting rate is $16 an hour, 437 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,200 a dollar 50 extra per hour if you work between 10:00 PM and 438 00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:16,000 6:00 AM You know, so we're already seeing, uh, you know, 439 00:27:16,180 --> 00:27:19,840 at entry level store member at sheets, that's, you know, 440 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:25,040 putting the bread on the shelves and and so forth. They're making $16 an hour, 441 00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:27,680 and if it's evening, they're making 1750. 442 00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:33,500 Yeah. You know, it's just, um, like I said, it just, it does need to raise the, 443 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:37,900 the market should drive it. Um, and hey, listen, if inflation, you know, um, 444 00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:41,580 recedes and, and comes down and then, you know, hey, you know, in a few years, 445 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,940 you know, maybe they're paying 10, $12 an hour, I really think for our area, 446 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,900 you know, 11 to $12 an hour probably is a true minimum wage here. 447 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,690 Well, uh, representative Banzo, 448 00:27:52,690 --> 00:27:55,490 we have to get our second break for the program in, when we come back, 449 00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:56,730 we'll be talking, uh, 450 00:27:56,860 --> 00:28:01,530 about some of the other things that you have on your legislative agenda for 451 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,130 this, uh, this session. As well as how, uh, 452 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:08,770 people who may be listening from the West Morling County area, 453 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:11,050 people that are your constituents, uh, 454 00:28:11,070 --> 00:28:15,210 how they can interact with your office and contact you. But, uh, 455 00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:18,570 we'll be right back after this break with commonalities. 456 00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:26,170 You're listening to commonalities where guests find common ground through 457 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:27,730 uncommon conversations. 458 00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:31,650 We'll be back after this brief break to recognize our sponsors. 459 00:28:34,550 --> 00:28:38,810 Is your business using analog strategies in a digital marketing world? 460 00:28:39,350 --> 00:28:40,000 If so, 461 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,650 then contact Matthew or Rebecca Dowling at Coordinated 360 for a 462 00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:48,610 professional consultation where we bring in-depth knowledge and functional 463 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,490 expertise with a holistic perspective. 464 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:56,130 Coordinated 360 provides digital marketing, paid ad and media buying services, 465 00:28:56,390 --> 00:29:01,050 web design, social media management, video production, and more for businesses, 466 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,610 organizations, and political campaigns with decades of experience. 467 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,730 Matt and Becky at Coordinated 360 can help you craft your unique message and 468 00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:15,530 share it with the world. For a no risk media evaluation and recommendations, 469 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,810 call 7 2 4 3 2 0 22 12, 470 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:22,090 or visit us online at 471 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:27,530 www.coordinatedthreesixty.com. Find us also on Facebook, 472 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,810 Instagram, and Twitter, 473 00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:32,890 or email info@coordinatedthreesixty.com. 474 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,810 When it comes to buying a home, 475 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,250 what you see isn't exactly what you get. 476 00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:45,800 That's why home buyers should call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections 477 00:29:46,140 --> 00:29:50,000 at 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 478 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:55,280 You'll see colorful flowers, freshly painted walls, granite countertops, 479 00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:57,920 fleeing hardwood floors, and other touches. 480 00:29:58,430 --> 00:30:02,400 What you can't see is the cracks, ancient plumbing, 481 00:30:02,910 --> 00:30:03,920 dangerous wiring, 482 00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:09,400 or broken appliances that might be revealed when you hire a home 483 00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:12,840 inspector. And when it comes to home inspectors, 484 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:18,000 knowing yours has the qualifications and experience needed should be your 485 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,400 number one concern. 486 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:24,600 Dave Dowling with Grand View Inspections is an architectural engineer 487 00:30:24,870 --> 00:30:29,640 with over 30 years of commercial construction experience and hundreds of 488 00:30:29,670 --> 00:30:31,160 inspections under his belt. 489 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,680 A home inspection is an opportunity for you to hire an expert to walk 490 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,880 through the home and prepare a report outlining the home's major components. 491 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:47,200 What needs immediate attention and what will require maintenance after you move 492 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:50,440 in your home is one of your biggest investments. 493 00:30:50,820 --> 00:30:54,400 So make sure your invest is everything you hoped it to be. 494 00:30:55,190 --> 00:30:58,560 Call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections at 495 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,360 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 496 00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:10,840 Are you enjoying the program? 497 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,000 You're listening to support commonalities and help keep us on the air by making 498 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,960 a donation of five 10 or $25, or any amount you feel comfortable sharing 499 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:23,880 online@donate.commonalities.online. Again, 500 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,960 that is donate.commonalities.online on the worldwide web. 501 00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:32,680 Buy our host a cup of coffee or help pay for airtime at donate dot commonalities 502 00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:33,573 online. 503 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,880 Hey, Fayette County ready to give a helping hand and have a lot of fun in the 504 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,760 process. Then come out to the Uniontown Senior Center on Saturday, 505 00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:53,640 March 25th from 11:00 AM to 6:00 PM for a Pirogi making party, 506 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:57,280 hosted by me Matt Dowling, and my wife Rebecca. 507 00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,920 As we make enough to feed 200 of our local seniors, 508 00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:05,880 get all the details at www.matthewddowling.com. 509 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,260 I'm Melinda de LaRose. As an Assistant District attorney, 510 00:32:10,450 --> 00:32:14,140 I've protected Fayette County families and fought to uphold our constitutional 511 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:17,140 rights. As a prosecutor and trusted local attorney, 512 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:21,180 I've provided victims of crime with a strong voice and put criminals behind 513 00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:24,540 bars. My pledge to you as Judge is to follow the law, 514 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,860 always maintain the highest ethical standards, 515 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:31,140 and to run a courtroom that's respectful of your time and tax dollars. 516 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,060 I'm Melinda de LaRose asking for your vote for Judge paid. 517 00:32:35,060 --> 00:32:36,740 For by Friends of Melinda de LaRose. 518 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:44,240 You are listening to commonalities where guests find common ground through 519 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,800 uncommon conversations. 520 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:48,120 Well, again, 521 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,200 I wanna make that public announcement that anyone running for any public office, 522 00:32:52,250 --> 00:32:55,520 regardless of Party, is welcome to reach out to me. 523 00:32:55,530 --> 00:32:59,520 Visit matthew d dowling.com for my contact information. 524 00:32:59,910 --> 00:33:04,120 We'd love to have you on the program so that we can educate voters here in the 525 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,600 area, uh, what your thoughts and opinions are and, uh, 526 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,160 and what you plan to do should you win Election and Take Office. Uh, again, 527 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,400 that's matthew d dowling.com. Uh, this is a public, uh, 528 00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:21,720 invitation to anyone who's running for public office. Also, 529 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,560 you heard the promo about our March 25th pierogi Making Party. And, 530 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:29,840 uh, representative Zo, are you a fan of Pierogis? 531 00:33:30,790 --> 00:33:33,370 Oh, love Pierogis. Love, love the Pierogis. 532 00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:35,490 If if you're from Southwestern Pennsylvania, 533 00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:39,570 you know that that Polish and Slovak, uh, heritage has, 534 00:33:40,030 --> 00:33:42,410 has really been in our community for a long time. 535 00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:47,330 And so we're gonna be making Pierogis for 200 of our seniors that, 536 00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:51,810 uh, that visit the Community Action Senior Centers that week. Um, and it, 537 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,650 it's gonna be a lot of fun. We'll have some pokas in the background, uh, 538 00:33:55,790 --> 00:34:00,410 et cetera. So, uh, so we invite everyone in the community to come out. Again, 539 00:34:00,540 --> 00:34:04,570 visit matthew d dowling.com. There's a banner that says, uh, 540 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,410 pierogi Party registration. 541 00:34:06,460 --> 00:34:09,210 Click on that and you can find all the details there. 542 00:34:09,790 --> 00:34:14,490 My guest today is Representative Eric Zo, and Representative Zo, 543 00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:19,250 uh, is a state representative in the West Morling County area. 544 00:34:20,070 --> 00:34:24,330 Um, some big changes have happened in the Pennsylvania House since, uh, 545 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:28,610 since my retirement. Uh, at the end of November, uh, the, 546 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:31,530 the, uh, parties have switched, 547 00:34:31,710 --> 00:34:35,970 the Democrats now have control of the house. Um, you know, 548 00:34:36,110 --> 00:34:38,770 so Representative Zo, you've now, you know, 549 00:34:38,770 --> 00:34:42,010 been in a situation where you were serving, uh, 550 00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:46,290 under Republican control and now under the Democrats Control. 551 00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:50,650 I wanted to kind of get some of your thoughts and feedback about, uh, 552 00:34:51,140 --> 00:34:54,970 about how that has, has changed things. I know it, 553 00:34:55,390 --> 00:34:59,770 it sometimes makes legislation a little bit more difficult to get out of the 554 00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:03,810 committee. Um, and, you know, the majority leader now is, 555 00:35:03,830 --> 00:35:08,130 is gonna be scheduling bills, uh, with the speaker to, uh, 556 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:09,930 to get them run on the house floor. 557 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:14,810 So it may not be as easy as it was during my time of service for a 558 00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:19,610 Republican to move a bill. Uh, but hopefully we're working in tandem, uh, both, 559 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,010 both sides of the o uh, to move important legislation. So I, 560 00:35:24,090 --> 00:35:28,650 I wanted to give you a chance to talk here a little bit about, uh, 561 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,490 what your legislative agenda is and if you think it's gonna be more difficult 562 00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:36,170 to, to move those bills this session. 563 00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:42,270 Yeah. You know what? So I think it's gonna be extremely difficult, 564 00:35:42,450 --> 00:35:43,790 but, but one thing that I, 565 00:35:43,790 --> 00:35:47,390 that I always try to do is I always try to go to the other side of the aisle. 566 00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:52,270 Um, the friendships over there, the communications cause, cause listen, 567 00:35:52,270 --> 00:35:56,290 there are things we agree on, right? Um, and also with that, 568 00:35:56,530 --> 00:36:01,530 at the end of the day, we we're humans. Uh, we all have family, um, 569 00:36:01,790 --> 00:36:04,490 and we're set here to go to work for the people. I mean, I mean, 570 00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:08,730 that's why we're here. Our ultimate goal is, is to make everyday lives better, 571 00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:12,690 uh, for the, for our constituents. So people that put us here. So, you know, 572 00:36:13,110 --> 00:36:16,210 if we're gonna go there and draw a line in a stand and, and a St mate, 573 00:36:16,210 --> 00:36:20,970 and listen, there are times we have to do that. Um, but to do that every day is, 574 00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:24,490 is a complete injustice for, for the whole institution. And, and you know, 575 00:36:24,510 --> 00:36:25,890 why we're here, and I think there's, 576 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:30,330 so there's 55 freshmen members this year, so think about that. 577 00:36:30,570 --> 00:36:34,810 A quarter of the house, the 2 0 3 members, a quarter of them are, are freshmen. 578 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:39,610 And, and I remember when I come in, in, uh, in, um, 2020 right after Covid, 579 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:43,450 um, or I should say right, right. As Covid was kicking off, you know, 580 00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:46,690 I remember the stories of other members saying, you know, Hey, 581 00:36:46,850 --> 00:36:49,730 I remember the night Ed ran Del come in. He was trying to get a budget pass. 582 00:36:49,790 --> 00:36:50,623 You know, 583 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:54,410 and those stories are non-existent anymore because there's hardly anybody there 584 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,690 that has any, and I don't wanna say the, 585 00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:59,530 the knowledge of it because there's a lot of people that have the knowledge, 586 00:36:59,670 --> 00:37:03,970 but that, that longevity there just really isn't there. Um, 587 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:08,010 but I also think that that could open up the, the door for some of us, um, 588 00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:11,090 that are willing to go across the aisle. You know, Hey, listen, we're here, 589 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:14,970 we're here ready to work, willing to work. Um, you know, 590 00:37:14,970 --> 00:37:18,690 Matt Bradford is the majority leader. Um, 591 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:21,690 I'd like to think I have a decent relationship with him. Um, 592 00:37:21,690 --> 00:37:26,370 but at the end of the day, you know, he's loyal to his party. Um, and if the, 593 00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:29,650 his speaker doesn't wanna run it or the governor doesn't run it, 594 00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:34,410 at the end of the day, he's not going to. Um, so that's just part of being, 595 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:36,450 being in the majority with the power, I guess. 596 00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:42,390 Yeah. And, and like I said, that's, that's a major, uh, change that we've seen. 597 00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:45,310 Uh, but at least in the, um, 598 00:37:45,650 --> 00:37:48,870 in the budget address that we were talking about before the last break, 599 00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:52,950 I did see, uh, governor Shapiro kind of, um, 600 00:37:53,730 --> 00:37:57,830 lay out some things that I think would be more popular for the conservatives 601 00:37:57,830 --> 00:38:01,790 that are in the house. Um, of course, you know, like we talked, uh, 602 00:38:01,790 --> 00:38:04,790 there were some things that conservatives wouldn't like, um, 603 00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:08,590 but I think there was a little bit of an olive branch from the governor's 604 00:38:08,590 --> 00:38:12,630 office, um, looking to, to work with both parties. And, 605 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:17,310 and I think it is, uh, it's good to remember the fact that, 606 00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:21,590 uh, that Governor Shapiro was a house member himself, and, uh, 607 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:23,470 and he kind of understands that process. 608 00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:29,440 Yeah. You know, definitely, definitely understands the process. And once again, 609 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,240 I think that helps, you know, cuz his legislative aid, uh, is a Republican, 610 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,520 a lot of our leadership members have a good relationship with, with Mike Burb. 611 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:41,240 Um, and, and listen, you gotta use, 612 00:38:41,260 --> 00:38:45,560 you gotta pull every tool out of the toolbox you can to get legislation moving. 613 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,320 Listen, it, it, 614 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,200 it's hard enough whenever you're in the majority party and have the power to get 615 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,320 legislation moving, um, let alone what we're up against now. But, you know, 616 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,280 governor Shapiro has, it appears to show a willingness to work. Um, but, 617 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:03,400 but only time will tell, you know, his his aspirations of maybe one day being, 618 00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:06,920 being president. Uh, it may help us. Um, and then again, 619 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,280 it it may come back to hurt us too. 620 00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:12,560 Yeah. And, and you know, I've talked with this with a number of guests, uh, 621 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:17,360 throughout the last couple months, but, you know, we no longer have, uh, 622 00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:21,680 on either side a, uh, you know, a huge number of members, 623 00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:24,880 uh, you know, a huge advantage, uh, 624 00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:29,920 with members from one party or the other and having those numbers a little bit 625 00:39:29,940 --> 00:39:34,480 closer. You know, at one point in time, I know we were at 2023, uh, 626 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,120 more Republicans than Democrats. 627 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:39,960 Now you're only separated by one or two members, you know, and, 628 00:39:40,060 --> 00:39:42,280 and my question to all of my guests has been, 629 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:45,640 will this force the parties to, uh, 630 00:39:45,830 --> 00:39:47,800 work more in tandem in together, 631 00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:52,320 or will it really create a stalemate where, uh, 632 00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:55,480 where things aren't gonna move at all? So, you know, 633 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,520 I I want to get your thoughts on that. 634 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,810 Yeah. So , that's a good question. You know, I, 635 00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:06,380 I can see it, I can see it where, you know, 636 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:10,220 you're gonna have some members of both parties that are running for, uh, 637 00:40:10,220 --> 00:40:12,900 magistrate judges, um, one's running for, 638 00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:16,460 I believe county executor in Ahe County and the natural process, 639 00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:21,300 there's a good chance that, you know, we could just by natural selection, 640 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:25,060 so to speak, um, as some members move on, you know, 641 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,380 we could have the majority by the end of the year, if not, um, 642 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:34,020 this time next year. Um, and also it could swing the other way. 643 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,900 Um, but, but I think, I think that it's, it's our job. It, 644 00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:42,740 it's our duty to really come together, focus on the people that put us here, 645 00:40:42,740 --> 00:40:47,580 focus on the needs of the everyday, um, individual here. You know, 646 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,860 we have to focus and make Pennsylvania better. And in those lines, if, 647 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:56,220 if we have a chance to pick off a member in an election, um, 648 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,820 and then that's when we do that. But, but I don't want us to get into the, 649 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,300 the dirty politics of a one seat majority setting traps for the other party, 650 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,100 for a member to take, um, 651 00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:09,420 because truly the people of the Commonwealth do not benefit from any of that. 652 00:41:09,730 --> 00:41:13,380 Yeah. And you know, I, I always had the thought process that, uh, 653 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:18,740 that there's a campaign mode and that that is a part of your job that's just 654 00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:23,500 be frank about that. And, and then there's a legislative side of things. And, 655 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,500 uh, and yeah, I think it, 656 00:41:25,930 --> 00:41:30,860 it's bahoo of members in the house or in the Senate to be able to flip 657 00:41:30,860 --> 00:41:35,600 that switch and to leave that campaign mode and go into legislative mode 658 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,600 where you're working for every, uh, person, 659 00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:42,840 all of those 68,000 people that are in a house district, uh, 660 00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:46,560 as your constituents, you're working for every one of them regardless of party. 661 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:50,800 So you have to kind of turn that campaign side off and, uh, 662 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:55,680 and be able to, to focus on the legislative side. We have one more break. 663 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,920 We're gonna get in here today, and when we come back, 664 00:41:58,130 --> 00:42:02,000 we're gonna have final thoughts as well as some contact information for 665 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,920 Representative Devan. So we'll be right back on commonalities. 666 00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:12,400 You are listening to commonalities guests find Common Ground through 667 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:13,920 Uncommon Conversations. 668 00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:17,960 We'll be back after this brief break to recognize our sponsors. 669 00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:24,960 Is your business using analog strategies in a digital marketing world? 670 00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:26,110 If so, 671 00:42:26,110 --> 00:42:30,880 then contact Matthew or Rebecca Dowling at Coordinated 360 for a 672 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,880 professional consultation where we bring in-depth knowledge and functional 673 00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:36,800 expertise with a holistic perspective. 674 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,320 Coordinated 360 provides digital marketing, paid ad and media buying services, 675 00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:47,280 web design, social media management, video production, and more for businesses, 676 00:42:47,350 --> 00:42:51,840 organizations, and political campaigns with decades of experience. 677 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:56,520 Matt and Becky at Coordinated 360 can help you craft your unique message 678 00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:01,640 and share it with the world. For a no risk media evaluation and recommendations, 679 00:43:02,070 --> 00:43:06,040 call 7 2 4 3 2 0 22 12, 680 00:43:06,460 --> 00:43:08,320 or visit us online at 681 00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:13,840 www.coordinatedthreesixty.com. Find us also on Facebook, 682 00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:15,200 Instagram, and Twitter, 683 00:43:15,660 --> 00:43:19,080 or email info coordinated three sixty.com. 684 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:22,840 When it comes to buying a home, 685 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:26,480 what you see isn't exactly what you get. 686 00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:32,000 That's why home buyers should call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections 687 00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:36,200 at 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 688 00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:41,400 You'll see colorful flowers, freshly painted walls, granite countertops, 689 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,360 gleaming hardwood floors, and other touches. 690 00:43:44,910 --> 00:43:48,600 What you can't see is the cracks, ancient plumbing, 691 00:43:49,110 --> 00:43:50,160 dangerous wiring, 692 00:43:50,620 --> 00:43:55,560 or broken appliances that might be revealed when you hire a home 693 00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:58,960 inspector. And when it comes to home inspectors, 694 00:43:59,190 --> 00:44:04,120 knowing yours has the qualifications and experience needed should 695 00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:05,640 be your number one concern. 696 00:44:06,270 --> 00:44:10,800 Dave Dowling with Grand View Inspections is an architectural engineer 697 00:44:11,070 --> 00:44:15,840 with over 30 years of commercial construction experience and hundreds of 698 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,280 inspections under his belt. 699 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,160 A home inspection is an opportunity for you to hire an expert to walk 700 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,120 through the home and prepare a report outlining the home's major components. 701 00:44:28,510 --> 00:44:33,440 What needs immediate attention and what will require maintenance after you move 702 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,720 in Your home is one of your biggest investments. 703 00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:40,920 So make sure your investment is everything you hoped it to be. 704 00:44:41,390 --> 00:44:44,760 Call Dave Dowling at Grandview Inspections at 705 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,280 7 2 4 2 0 8 4 1 0 8. 706 00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:57,040 Are you enjoying the program? 707 00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:01,240 You're listening to support commonalities and help keep us on the air by making 708 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,040 a donation of five 10 or $25, 709 00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:09,320 or any amount you feel comfortable sharing online@donate.commonalities.online. 710 00:45:09,610 --> 00:45:14,160 Again, that is donate.commonalities.online on the worldwide web. 711 00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:18,960 Buy our host a cup of coffee or help pay for airtime at donate dot commonalities 712 00:45:19,060 --> 00:45:19,893 online. 713 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,920 Hey, Fayette County ready to give a helping hand and have a lot of fun in the 714 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,000 process. Then come out to the Uniontown Senior Center on Saturday, 715 00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:39,960 March 25th from 11:00 AM to 6:00 PM for a pierogi making party, 716 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:43,480 hosted by me Matt Dowling, and my wife Rebecca. 717 00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:47,040 As we make enough to feed 200 of our local seniors, 718 00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:52,120 get all the details at www.matthewddowling.com. 719 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,500 I'm Melinda de LaRose. As an Assistant district attorney, 720 00:45:56,690 --> 00:46:00,540 I've protected Fayette County families and fought to uphold our constitutional 721 00:46:00,540 --> 00:46:03,340 rights. As a prosecutor and trusted local attorney, 722 00:46:03,530 --> 00:46:07,260 I've provided victims of crime with a strong voice and put criminals behind 723 00:46:07,330 --> 00:46:10,780 bars. My pledge to you as Judge is to follow the law, 724 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,100 always maintain the highest ethical standards, 725 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,460 and to run a courtroom that's respectful of your time and tax dollars. 726 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,300 I'm Melinda de LaRose asking for your vote for Judge paid. 727 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,940 For by Friends of Melinda de LaRose. 728 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,620 You are listening to commonalities where guests find common ground through 729 00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:32,140 Uncommon Conversations. 730 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,460 Hi, I am your host Matt Dowling, 731 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,940 and my guest today has been Representative Eric Zo from Westmoreland County. 732 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:45,100 We have about 90 seconds, representative Zo. So, uh, in that time, 733 00:46:45,450 --> 00:46:48,940 give us your contact information and how people can, uh, 734 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,620 can interface with interface with your office, and if you have any, uh, 735 00:46:52,620 --> 00:46:56,300 upcoming legislative events that, uh, people may wish to attend. 736 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,130 Yeah, well first off, you know, I'll just talk on Pirogis there. 737 00:47:00,130 --> 00:47:01,410 You you got me hungry here, . 738 00:47:01,410 --> 00:47:04,530 So I'm gonna start googling some things there, but, uh, yeah, so, uh, 739 00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:09,450 my main office, my district office is in West Newton, one 19 North Water Street. 740 00:47:09,790 --> 00:47:14,410 Uh, phone number is (724) 929-2655. Uh, 741 00:47:14,430 --> 00:47:17,930 my website is www.repdavan.com. 742 00:47:18,660 --> 00:47:22,850 Email is zo pa house g.com. Um, 743 00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:26,810 I have a Facebook page. Feel free to go on there and, you know, like it, um, 744 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:29,360 and hey, listen, our, our doors are always open. There's, 745 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,120 there's nothing here that we haven't heard. And, and there's no such thing as, 746 00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:35,400 you know, people would call and say, listen, this is silly, 747 00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,200 but what do you think about this? Or, I need help with this. There's, 748 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,840 there's nothing too silly here. Uh, we are here to help, uh, regardless. 749 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,400 So please feel free to reach out. 750 00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:47,320 Well, we have to wrap things up. This has been another episode of Commonalities. 751 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:52,600 Join us next Tuesday and Thursday where we will have additional guests to talk 752 00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:56,800 about their candid candidacy for public office. Thanks for listening. 753 00:47:59,750 --> 00:48:01,520 This has been Commonalities, 754 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,160 a show where guests find common ground through uncommon conversations. 755 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:09,000 Copyright 2022 Coordinated 360. 756 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:12,720 All public rebroadcast should be done with prior written approval from Matthew 757 00:48:12,830 --> 00:48:17,640 Dowling. All requests should be sent to info@coordinatedthreesixty.com. 758 00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:20,000 Thank you for listening to commonalities.