1 00:00:00,135 --> 00:00:00,175 - 2 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:08,215 The Rocky 3 00:00:31,725 --> 00:00:33,095 - Gentlemen, - Welcome back to the ranch. 4 00:00:33,195 --> 00:00:34,895 I'm looking forward to finding out what we've got lined up 5 00:00:34,895 --> 00:00:37,095 for the next part of our investigation. 6 00:00:37,325 --> 00:00:38,535 - Well, we're happy to be back 7 00:00:38,535 --> 00:00:41,135 and we think we've got a really interesting story this time. 8 00:00:41,485 --> 00:00:43,895 This is a ranch where not only we have a a really 9 00:00:44,215 --> 00:00:45,295 interesting physical location, 10 00:00:45,355 --> 00:00:47,535 but we've got a great human story. 11 00:00:47,725 --> 00:00:49,095 - Yeah. We've got a pretty good lead here. 12 00:00:49,095 --> 00:00:51,135 It came out of the book, the Hunt for the Skin Walker. 13 00:00:51,955 --> 00:00:54,735 - You're talking about Kelleher and and George Knapps book. 14 00:00:54,745 --> 00:00:57,495 Right? Right. So, uh, what part of it 15 00:00:58,115 --> 00:00:59,295 is this from and what, what is 16 00:00:59,295 --> 00:01:00,295 - The story? 17 00:01:00,295 --> 00:01:00,735 There's a whole section in 18 00:01:00,735 --> 00:01:02,335 that book called Other Hotspots, right? 19 00:01:02,335 --> 00:01:03,695 Mm-hmm - . Inside that book, 20 00:01:03,695 --> 00:01:05,655 they reference a ranch in Colorado, 21 00:01:06,195 --> 00:01:08,535 - And the story in the book references a family 22 00:01:08,635 --> 00:01:10,775 and a series of strange events over the years, 23 00:01:10,995 --> 00:01:13,455 but keeps the names involved completely hidden. 24 00:01:13,685 --> 00:01:15,895 There's pseudonyms, no name of the location 25 00:01:16,205 --> 00:01:17,455 that is kept concealed. 26 00:01:17,965 --> 00:01:19,815 They called it Rocky Mountain Ranch. 27 00:01:21,035 --> 00:01:23,815 We reached out to Muon, Colorado Muon, 28 00:01:24,435 --> 00:01:27,255 and the head of Colorado Muon is a woman named Katie Page. 29 00:01:27,875 --> 00:01:29,615 So this is a real puzzle to put together 30 00:01:29,615 --> 00:01:31,215 and Katie really is the key. 31 00:01:31,215 --> 00:01:34,455 Keystone. Turns out Katie Page is part of 32 00:01:34,455 --> 00:01:35,775 that family living on the ranch 33 00:01:36,235 --> 00:01:39,095 and has firsthand knowledge of this whole story. 34 00:01:39,315 --> 00:01:40,695 - So she is an experiencer. 35 00:01:40,765 --> 00:01:43,895 - Correct. Katie herself was an experiencer at age nine 36 00:01:44,435 --> 00:01:46,255 on the ranch, referenced in the book, 37 00:01:46,915 --> 00:01:48,175 and when we got in contact with her, 38 00:01:48,175 --> 00:01:51,455 she actually turned us on to a very little known report 39 00:01:51,805 --> 00:01:53,335 that was filled out at the time 40 00:01:53,795 --> 00:01:56,655 by a group called the Aerial Phenomenon Research 41 00:01:56,655 --> 00:01:59,775 Organization, the actual precursor to Muon. 42 00:01:59,805 --> 00:02:00,975 - Welcome in everyone. 43 00:02:01,355 --> 00:02:02,415 Um, I am just so, 44 00:02:02,435 --> 00:02:04,135 so incredibly glad you are joining us today. 45 00:02:04,245 --> 00:02:05,455 - Yeah. It's great to have you here 46 00:02:05,605 --> 00:02:07,695 - Because right now, uh, you and I 47 00:02:08,235 --> 00:02:10,455 and our resident experts sitting right across from me, 48 00:02:11,275 --> 00:02:13,175 we are about to embark on a deep dive 49 00:02:13,565 --> 00:02:16,455 that is gonna take literally everything you thought you knew 50 00:02:16,665 --> 00:02:18,575 about the paranormal, well, 51 00:02:18,575 --> 00:02:20,415 everything you thought you knew about modern science 52 00:02:21,035 --> 00:02:23,095 and violently smash them together 53 00:02:23,325 --> 00:02:24,535 - Violently smash is 54 00:02:24,535 --> 00:02:26,135 definitely the right phrase for this one. Right. 55 00:02:26,435 --> 00:02:29,575 - Um, we are taking a massive stack 56 00:02:29,715 --> 00:02:32,455 of incredibly intriguing sources today. 57 00:02:32,705 --> 00:02:34,335 We've got television production notes, 58 00:02:34,685 --> 00:02:37,215 deep cut Reddit community discussions, uh, 59 00:02:37,245 --> 00:02:40,415 transcripts from some really niche paranormal podcasts, 60 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:42,495 and even highly detailed, 61 00:02:42,515 --> 00:02:44,855 almost declassified style intelligence 62 00:02:44,855 --> 00:02:46,455 community biographies. It's a 63 00:02:46,455 --> 00:02:47,535 - Huge stack of data. 64 00:02:47,715 --> 00:02:49,255 - It is. And our mission today, 65 00:02:49,555 --> 00:02:51,815 we are investigating a terrifyingly specific 66 00:02:51,815 --> 00:02:53,175 geographic anomaly. 67 00:02:53,355 --> 00:02:55,375 - And to be clear right off the bat, um, 68 00:02:55,595 --> 00:02:57,535 we are looking at the investigations conducted 69 00:02:57,535 --> 00:02:59,725 by the team from the television series Beyond Skin Walker 70 00:02:59,725 --> 00:03:01,885 Ranch, but we aren't looking at the whole show. 71 00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:03,765 - No. We are zeroing in 72 00:03:04,115 --> 00:03:05,115 - Exactly. 73 00:03:05,145 --> 00:03:08,365 We are going to zero in on one highly specific, 74 00:03:08,365 --> 00:03:10,965 highly dangerous area in South Central Colorado, 75 00:03:11,605 --> 00:03:14,245 a place known locally as the Miller Ranch Road Bridge. 76 00:03:14,505 --> 00:03:16,005 - The Miller Ranch Road Bridge. Yeah. 77 00:03:16,235 --> 00:03:18,645 - This isn't just, you know, a broad overview 78 00:03:18,665 --> 00:03:19,885 of spooky phenomena. 79 00:03:20,265 --> 00:03:23,045 We are surgically extracting the data from one 80 00:03:23,045 --> 00:03:24,405 of the most concentrated areas 81 00:03:24,505 --> 00:03:26,885 of high strangeness on the entire continent. 82 00:03:27,315 --> 00:03:28,605 - Okay. So let's unpack this 83 00:03:28,605 --> 00:03:30,845 because, uh, this is not your 84 00:03:30,845 --> 00:03:32,085 typical late night ghost story. 85 00:03:32,385 --> 00:03:34,525 We aren't sitting around a campfire talking about some 86 00:03:34,785 --> 00:03:37,485 spooky unexplained lights dancing in the night sky, 87 00:03:37,625 --> 00:03:41,125 or, I don't know, a, a cold draft in an old Victorian house. 88 00:03:41,345 --> 00:03:43,245 - No, not at all. The stakes here are very 89 00:03:43,245 --> 00:03:44,525 real and very grounded. 90 00:03:44,755 --> 00:03:47,485 This deep dive isn't about chasing shadows in the dark. 91 00:03:47,945 --> 00:03:49,045 We are looking at hard, 92 00:03:49,485 --> 00:03:52,205 verifiable scientific findings crashing headfirst into 93 00:03:52,395 --> 00:03:53,965 grim physical realities. 94 00:03:54,245 --> 00:03:55,285 - Physical realities. - Yes. 95 00:03:55,585 --> 00:03:58,165 We are talking about a documented geographical history 96 00:03:58,165 --> 00:03:59,965 of 15 associated human deaths. 97 00:04:00,355 --> 00:04:05,045 15, and we're talking about 16 brutal cattle mutilations in 98 00:04:05,045 --> 00:04:06,285 that exact same area. 99 00:04:06,905 --> 00:04:09,045 And on top of all that, we are looking at claims 100 00:04:09,265 --> 00:04:12,365 of literal dimensional portals existing right here on earth, 101 00:04:12,965 --> 00:04:14,605 anchored to physical infrastructure, 102 00:04:14,815 --> 00:04:17,005 - Which is just, I mean, it's heavy, very heavy. 103 00:04:17,205 --> 00:04:18,885 I know they brought in a very specific team 104 00:04:18,885 --> 00:04:21,645 for this investigation, and it's a huge departure from the 105 00:04:21,645 --> 00:04:25,525 norm because we are looking for a shortcut to understanding 106 00:04:25,625 --> 00:04:27,685 how people who are trained in the hard sciences 107 00:04:27,945 --> 00:04:30,925 or trained in national security are trying to measure 108 00:04:32,025 --> 00:04:33,205 the truly unmeasurable. 109 00:04:33,205 --> 00:04:35,445 Right. So let's look at the core team leading the charge. 110 00:04:36,095 --> 00:04:37,405 We're not looking at guys running 111 00:04:37,405 --> 00:04:39,845 around in the dark screaming at every creaking floorboard 112 00:04:39,845 --> 00:04:41,805 and pointing a shaky camera at a dusty mirror. 113 00:04:41,805 --> 00:04:43,845 Definitely not. We are looking at Andrew 114 00:04:43,895 --> 00:04:45,485 Gusta and Paul Bibe. 115 00:04:45,835 --> 00:04:48,365 Walk us through this because Ste Monte's background isn't 116 00:04:48,365 --> 00:04:49,885 exactly standard for this field. 117 00:04:50,385 --> 00:04:52,565 Why does his specific skillset matter here? 118 00:04:52,905 --> 00:04:54,805 - It completely shifts the paradigm of 119 00:04:54,805 --> 00:04:56,445 how we approach this kind of research. 120 00:04:56,685 --> 00:04:58,445 I mean, this brings a pedigree to the table 121 00:04:58,445 --> 00:05:01,085 that we almost never see in the paranormal field. 122 00:05:01,585 --> 00:05:03,565 Andrew Bustamante is a graduate 123 00:05:03,565 --> 00:05:05,005 of the United States Air Force Academy, 124 00:05:05,505 --> 00:05:09,285 but more importantly, he worked in nuclear ICBM operations. 125 00:05:09,625 --> 00:05:12,125 Wow. Yeah. We are talking about intercontinental 126 00:05:12,195 --> 00:05:13,445 ballistic missiles. Yep. 127 00:05:13,575 --> 00:05:16,525 - Which means his baseline for operational security 128 00:05:16,705 --> 00:05:19,405 and just dealing with high stress data is off the charts. 129 00:05:19,405 --> 00:05:22,125 Mm-hmm. You do not get much more structured high stakes 130 00:05:22,125 --> 00:05:24,885 and scientifically rigorous than handling the launch 131 00:05:25,205 --> 00:05:26,845 protocols for nuclear weapons. Exactly. 132 00:05:26,865 --> 00:05:29,485 - The point he's indoctrinated into a world 133 00:05:29,485 --> 00:05:32,285 where a single anomalous blip on a radar screen 134 00:05:32,745 --> 00:05:35,725 or a sleigh deviation in a telemetry reading has 135 00:05:35,725 --> 00:05:36,845 to be analyzed instantly 136 00:05:36,875 --> 00:05:38,365 because the fate of millions 137 00:05:38,365 --> 00:05:39,885 of people could literally depend on it. 138 00:05:39,885 --> 00:05:40,925 Right. From there, 139 00:05:40,945 --> 00:05:42,525 he was recruited into the CIA's 140 00:05:42,805 --> 00:05:43,885 national clandestine service. 141 00:05:44,665 --> 00:05:46,645 He spent seven years specifically 142 00:05:46,665 --> 00:05:49,565 as a covert operations officer specializing in human 143 00:05:49,665 --> 00:05:50,965 and technical operations. 144 00:05:51,525 --> 00:05:53,925 - I was reading through the excerpts from his biographical 145 00:05:53,925 --> 00:05:57,045 background in our stack of sources, and it's fascinating. 146 00:05:57,745 --> 00:06:00,085 He literally set up a compartmented cell 147 00:06:00,795 --> 00:06:03,005 targeting a rival intelligence network. 148 00:06:03,345 --> 00:06:04,365 - He - Did. He 149 00:06:04,365 --> 00:06:07,405 and his wife, who was also a CIA officer, worked 150 00:06:07,465 --> 00:06:08,645 as a tandem couple. 151 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,445 They were deliberately placed 152 00:06:10,465 --> 00:06:12,365 to draw a mole out into the open. 153 00:06:12,675 --> 00:06:15,125 He's got a whole book about it coming out called Shadow 154 00:06:15,315 --> 00:06:17,845 Cell, and he operates Everyday spy, 155 00:06:18,055 --> 00:06:20,325 which is a commercial training platform. Yeah. 156 00:06:20,425 --> 00:06:21,525 - So think about what that 157 00:06:21,525 --> 00:06:22,525 - Means, right? 158 00:06:22,525 --> 00:06:24,245 This is a guy whose entire professional life, 159 00:06:24,425 --> 00:06:28,005 his literal survival, has been built on detecting deception, 160 00:06:28,395 --> 00:06:30,325 analyzing raw, chaotic data, 161 00:06:30,665 --> 00:06:32,205 and operating in environments 162 00:06:32,205 --> 00:06:35,245 where a single miscalculation means total disaster. 163 00:06:35,545 --> 00:06:37,925 - And that's exactly the lens he brings to Miller Ranch. 164 00:06:38,275 --> 00:06:40,005 When bi Deante looks at an anomaly, 165 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:41,525 he isn't asking, is this a ghost? 166 00:06:41,675 --> 00:06:44,365 He's asking, is this a counterintelligence operation? 167 00:06:44,665 --> 00:06:45,685 Is this spoofed data? 168 00:06:45,825 --> 00:06:47,525 Is this a natural environmental hazard 169 00:06:47,825 --> 00:06:49,685 or is it a directed energy signature? 170 00:06:50,155 --> 00:06:51,565 - He's treating the paranormal like an 171 00:06:51,565 --> 00:06:52,605 intelligence target. He 172 00:06:52,805 --> 00:06:55,245 - Treats the unknown like a hostile intelligence target 173 00:06:55,295 --> 00:06:56,325 until proven otherwise 174 00:06:56,905 --> 00:06:59,005 and paired with him, you have Paul B ban. 175 00:06:59,395 --> 00:07:01,245 - Bean brings a completely different 176 00:07:01,585 --> 00:07:03,885 but equally rigorous kind of scrutiny 177 00:07:04,185 --> 00:07:05,185 - He does. 178 00:07:05,435 --> 00:07:07,525 Beon is an award-winning broadcast journalist 179 00:07:07,545 --> 00:07:08,845 and investigative reporter. 180 00:07:09,145 --> 00:07:12,005 He was actually part of the team that won the Peabody 181 00:07:12,025 --> 00:07:15,285 and Columbia DuPont Awards for their coverage of nine 11, 182 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:16,725 - Which is massive. It's 183 00:07:16,725 --> 00:07:17,725 - Huge. 184 00:07:17,725 --> 00:07:20,325 This is a man who has tracked down heavily armed pirates 185 00:07:20,325 --> 00:07:21,405 off the coast of Somalia. 186 00:07:22,035 --> 00:07:25,165 He's investigated the sheer desperation driving violent 187 00:07:25,165 --> 00:07:26,885 political protests in Venezuela. 188 00:07:27,265 --> 00:07:29,125 He even went deep undercover 189 00:07:29,145 --> 00:07:31,805 to expose human trafficking rings in South Africa, 190 00:07:31,975 --> 00:07:33,005 which won him an 191 00:07:33,165 --> 00:07:34,165 - Emmy. 192 00:07:34,165 --> 00:07:35,965 So you have one guy who hunted moles for the CIA 193 00:07:36,145 --> 00:07:38,445 and another who hunted pirates and human traffickers. 194 00:07:39,095 --> 00:07:42,685 These two men have seen the absolute darkest, most complex 195 00:07:43,065 --> 00:07:45,445 and most dangerous parts of the human experience. Yeah. 196 00:07:45,445 --> 00:07:46,605 - They aren't gonna get spooked easily. 197 00:07:46,875 --> 00:07:48,205 - Exactly. They aren't looking 198 00:07:48,325 --> 00:07:49,805 to get scared by a bump in the night. 199 00:07:49,835 --> 00:07:51,405 They're looking for hard Jada. 200 00:07:51,475 --> 00:07:53,005 They want the evidentiary trail. 201 00:07:53,265 --> 00:07:56,245 - What's fascinating here is that their methodology is 202 00:07:56,265 --> 00:07:57,765 so critical to understand. 203 00:07:58,035 --> 00:07:59,965 They aren't out there with just a flashlight 204 00:07:59,965 --> 00:08:01,805 and a cheap digital audio recorder 205 00:08:01,805 --> 00:08:03,045 hoping to catch a static voice. 206 00:08:03,355 --> 00:08:07,685 They are deploying military grade cutting edge technology. 207 00:08:07,775 --> 00:08:09,245 - We're talking serious hardware. 208 00:08:09,355 --> 00:08:10,485 - Serious hardware. 209 00:08:10,705 --> 00:08:12,925 We are talking about drone magnetometers 210 00:08:12,925 --> 00:08:15,645 that map massive magnetic fields from the sky, 211 00:08:16,365 --> 00:08:18,525 creating three dimensional topographical 212 00:08:18,675 --> 00:08:19,845 maps of invisible forces. 213 00:08:20,315 --> 00:08:22,445 They use highly calibrated thermal cameras, 214 00:08:23,125 --> 00:08:26,085 spectrum analyzers that read the entire invisible radio 215 00:08:26,115 --> 00:08:28,605 frequency environment across gigahertz ranges. 216 00:08:28,995 --> 00:08:30,325 They use Geiger counters 217 00:08:30,345 --> 00:08:32,645 and even incredibly expensive gamma cameras. 218 00:08:33,205 --> 00:08:34,325 - I wanna pause on that for a second, 219 00:08:34,325 --> 00:08:36,685 because a gamma camera isn't something you just pick up at a 220 00:08:36,845 --> 00:08:38,365 hardware store for you listening, 221 00:08:38,485 --> 00:08:40,045 a gamma camera actually allows the user 222 00:08:40,065 --> 00:08:41,565 to literally visualize the source 223 00:08:41,565 --> 00:08:44,125 of radiation in real time. Right 224 00:08:44,225 --> 00:08:45,225 - On a screen. 225 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:47,445 - Yeah. It maps the invisible radioactive decay 226 00:08:47,445 --> 00:08:48,525 onto a visual screen. 227 00:08:49,035 --> 00:08:51,005 It's the kind of tech used in nuclear medicine 228 00:08:51,025 --> 00:08:52,205 in advanced physics labs. 229 00:08:52,755 --> 00:08:54,805 They are bringing the full weight of modern physics 230 00:08:54,865 --> 00:08:56,250 to bear on these anomalies, 231 00:08:56,545 --> 00:08:58,365 - And it changes the conversation completely. 232 00:08:58,835 --> 00:09:01,645 When a guy with a tape recorder says he feels a cold spot, 233 00:09:01,915 --> 00:09:02,965 well, it's an anecdote, 234 00:09:03,425 --> 00:09:06,485 but when a CIA operative points a gamma camera at a bridge 235 00:09:06,865 --> 00:09:10,005 and records a localized spike in ionizing radiation, 236 00:09:10,335 --> 00:09:14,685 while a drone magnetometer records a simultaneous deviation 237 00:09:15,065 --> 00:09:16,565 in the earth's magnetic field, 238 00:09:16,875 --> 00:09:20,085 - That is a measurable physical event. That is data. 239 00:09:20,515 --> 00:09:23,285 - Exactly. That is data. You can't just ignore. 240 00:09:23,545 --> 00:09:26,125 - What's really cool is seeing how the public is reacting 241 00:09:26,125 --> 00:09:27,885 to this specific duo and their methods. 242 00:09:28,505 --> 00:09:31,205 If you dig into the Reddit community discussion specifically 243 00:09:31,205 --> 00:09:33,925 looking at the Sirkin Walker Ranch subreddit we have in our 244 00:09:33,925 --> 00:09:35,405 sources, you can see 245 00:09:35,405 --> 00:09:38,325 that viewers actually find this style incredibly refreshing. 246 00:09:38,525 --> 00:09:40,125 - I think the audience has really matured. 247 00:09:40,195 --> 00:09:42,725 - They absolutely have the audience for this topic. 248 00:09:42,725 --> 00:09:44,845 They don't want the shaky cam theatrics anymore. 249 00:09:45,145 --> 00:09:47,405 One user noted that it's just better produced, pointing out 250 00:09:47,405 --> 00:09:48,525 that they take great care 251 00:09:48,545 --> 00:09:51,325 and actually explaining the complex experiments they're 252 00:09:51,325 --> 00:09:53,765 doing and crucially why they're doing them. 253 00:09:53,765 --> 00:09:56,045 - Because it respects the intelligence of the viewer. 254 00:09:56,215 --> 00:09:59,365 - Right. Another user pointed out that they appreciate 255 00:09:59,425 --> 00:10:02,045 how the team doesn't immediately jump on the sci-fi 256 00:10:02,045 --> 00:10:03,205 sensation bandwagon. 257 00:10:03,315 --> 00:10:05,445 They are making crazy conclusions without evidence. 258 00:10:05,915 --> 00:10:08,125 They're treating these locations like crime scenes. 259 00:10:08,545 --> 00:10:11,045 You establish a perimeter, you take baseline readings, 260 00:10:11,045 --> 00:10:13,685 you introduce a stimulus and you record the reaction. 261 00:10:14,785 --> 00:10:16,285 - But to understand what Andy 262 00:10:16,285 --> 00:10:18,965 and Paul eventually find at Miller Ranch, we actually have 263 00:10:18,965 --> 00:10:20,645 to trace their steps back a bit. 264 00:10:21,015 --> 00:10:23,165 There is a specific tell. They are tracking. 265 00:10:23,165 --> 00:10:25,485 There is a fingerprint, a calling card 266 00:10:25,515 --> 00:10:27,125 that this phenomenon leaves behind 267 00:10:27,505 --> 00:10:29,325 and it's tracking them across the country. 268 00:10:29,945 --> 00:10:32,125 And this is where the science gets genuinely baffling. 269 00:10:32,125 --> 00:10:34,205 - You're talking about the 1.6 gigahertz frequency. 270 00:10:34,345 --> 00:10:37,845 - Yes. Across various seemingly unconnected paranormal 271 00:10:37,845 --> 00:10:40,605 hotspots like Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, Arizona, 272 00:10:40,625 --> 00:10:42,565 and the original Skin Walker Ranch in Utah. 273 00:10:42,935 --> 00:10:45,925 These investigators keep hitting a very specific, 274 00:10:46,305 --> 00:10:48,005 highly localized data point. 275 00:10:48,645 --> 00:10:51,365 A 1.6 gigahertz frequency transmission. 276 00:10:51,945 --> 00:10:53,805 - Let me play devil's advocate here for a minute. 277 00:10:53,965 --> 00:10:55,525 'cause if you're driving down the road listening to this, 278 00:10:56,045 --> 00:10:57,205 a frequency is just a number. 279 00:10:57,355 --> 00:10:59,645 It's a radio wave. We are surrounded 280 00:10:59,645 --> 00:11:01,605 by radio waves all day long, cell phones, 281 00:11:01,755 --> 00:11:03,005 wifi, radio stations. 282 00:11:03,705 --> 00:11:06,045 Why is a 1.6 gigahertz frequency 283 00:11:06,065 --> 00:11:07,965 so inherently baffling to these guys? 284 00:11:08,245 --> 00:11:09,805 Couldn't it just be a glitch 285 00:11:10,025 --> 00:11:12,045 or some passing airplanes transponder? 286 00:11:12,315 --> 00:11:13,765 - It's a totally fair question, 287 00:11:13,825 --> 00:11:16,005 but you have to consider the physics of the LB band, 288 00:11:16,055 --> 00:11:18,085 which is where a 1.6 gigahertz lives. 289 00:11:18,465 --> 00:11:20,365 The LB band is heavily regulated. 290 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:22,845 It's normally used for things like GPS, 291 00:11:23,085 --> 00:11:25,125 highly secure satellite communications 292 00:11:25,425 --> 00:11:27,485 and specific aeronautical navigation. 293 00:11:27,505 --> 00:11:29,765 - So it's not a crowded space for civilian chatter. 294 00:11:29,905 --> 00:11:32,885 - Not at all. It requires significant directed power 295 00:11:32,945 --> 00:11:35,005 to generate a strong signal in this band, 296 00:11:35,005 --> 00:11:37,485 and it interacts with the ionosphere in very specific ways. 297 00:11:38,165 --> 00:11:41,045 Spoofing or accidentally generating a massive spike at 298 00:11:41,045 --> 00:11:43,565 exactly 1.6 gigahertz in the middle 299 00:11:43,565 --> 00:11:46,925 of a remote rural desert canyon without a massive antenna 300 00:11:46,935 --> 00:11:50,045 array or a satellite uplink is incredibly difficult. 301 00:11:50,185 --> 00:11:52,525 - So it's not like someone's rogue Bluetooth speaker is 302 00:11:52,725 --> 00:11:54,965 accidentally setting this off while they're hiking? No, 303 00:11:55,405 --> 00:11:56,405 - Absolutely not. 304 00:11:56,405 --> 00:11:58,165 And the context of when it appears is 305 00:11:58,165 --> 00:12:01,725 what elevates this from an anomaly to a major mystery. 306 00:12:02,275 --> 00:12:05,325 This specific frequency seemingly appears out of nowhere 307 00:12:06,205 --> 00:12:07,205 transmitting aggressively. 308 00:12:07,205 --> 00:12:09,245 Right. During moments of high strangeness. 309 00:12:09,435 --> 00:12:11,205 - It's timed with the events exactly 310 00:12:12,305 --> 00:12:13,305 - Spikes. 311 00:12:13,305 --> 00:12:16,525 When unidentified aerial phenomena appear, it spikes right 312 00:12:16,525 --> 00:12:19,565 before highly calibrated equipment violently malfunctions, 313 00:12:20,025 --> 00:12:23,085 or when physical localized anomalies occur in the 314 00:12:23,085 --> 00:12:25,925 environment, it acts almost like an invisible communication 315 00:12:25,925 --> 00:12:29,365 channel, or perhaps more terrifyingly an energy byproduct. 316 00:12:29,785 --> 00:12:32,165 The exhaust fumes of the phenomenon itself, 317 00:12:32,465 --> 00:12:34,165 - The exhaust fumes of an anomaly. 318 00:12:34,245 --> 00:12:37,005 I really love that phrasing. And if we trace those exhaust 319 00:12:37,015 --> 00:12:38,885 fumes, they lead us directly into Colorado. 320 00:12:39,185 --> 00:12:42,005 Now, Colorado has a massive reputation in UFO 321 00:12:42,005 --> 00:12:43,045 and paranormal circles. 322 00:12:43,045 --> 00:12:45,045 It's known as a close encounter capital. Oh yeah. 323 00:12:45,235 --> 00:12:46,325 - Huge history there. - But 324 00:12:46,325 --> 00:12:48,445 to understand the Miller Ranch Bridge down south, 325 00:12:48,545 --> 00:12:51,645 we first have to look at how they tracked this 1.6 signal in 326 00:12:51,645 --> 00:12:52,645 the northern part of the state. 327 00:12:53,345 --> 00:12:55,605 If you dig into the historical archives for this area, 328 00:12:55,745 --> 00:12:58,405 you inevitably stumble across the Rocky Mountain Ranch case. 329 00:12:58,755 --> 00:13:00,325 - This is a crucial piece of the puzzle. 330 00:13:00,915 --> 00:13:03,365 Back in the late 1970s, Rocky Mountain Ranch, 331 00:13:03,365 --> 00:13:05,565 which is located near Boulder, was investigated 332 00:13:05,565 --> 00:13:07,565 by a group called AP RO. 333 00:13:07,705 --> 00:13:10,125 - That's the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. 334 00:13:10,345 --> 00:13:13,645 - Yes. And for those who might not know, A PRO was one 335 00:13:13,645 --> 00:13:16,685 of the earliest and most scientifically rigorous civilian 336 00:13:16,885 --> 00:13:20,285 UFO investigative groups, essentially the precursor 337 00:13:20,305 --> 00:13:23,045 to M-U-F-O-N, the mutual UFO network. 338 00:13:23,635 --> 00:13:26,765 They compiled a highly detailed report on the bizarre 339 00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:28,005 happenings at this ranch, 340 00:13:28,465 --> 00:13:31,485 but it was mostly lost to history, just buried 341 00:13:31,505 --> 00:13:32,965 and dusty filing cabinets 342 00:13:32,965 --> 00:13:35,045 until the investigative team recently connected 343 00:13:35,045 --> 00:13:36,325 with a woman named Katie Page. 344 00:13:36,915 --> 00:13:38,485 - This story is legitimately chilling. 345 00:13:38,615 --> 00:13:41,005 Katie Page is now the head of Colorado, M-U-F-O-N. 346 00:13:41,005 --> 00:13:43,205 But back in the mid 1970s, she was just a kid. 347 00:13:43,305 --> 00:13:45,805 She was about nine to 12 years old, spending a lot 348 00:13:45,805 --> 00:13:47,165 of time at this specific ranch, 349 00:13:47,385 --> 00:13:49,445 and she experienced sheer terror there. 350 00:13:49,705 --> 00:13:50,885 - The thing she described. - Yeah, 351 00:13:50,885 --> 00:13:52,725 she described a heavy oppressive feeling 352 00:13:52,725 --> 00:13:54,325 of just being uneasy all the time, 353 00:13:54,625 --> 00:13:57,085 of constantly being watched by something unseen. 354 00:13:57,305 --> 00:13:58,565 But there was one specific night 355 00:13:58,565 --> 00:14:01,805 that she calls the absolute scariest night at the ranch. 356 00:14:02,105 --> 00:14:04,685 - The historical details she provides are incredibly 357 00:14:05,045 --> 00:14:06,445 specific, which is exactly what you look 358 00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:07,845 for in a credible witness account. 359 00:14:08,145 --> 00:14:11,125 The layout of the house, the exact timeline of events, 360 00:14:11,545 --> 00:14:13,645 the adults were in the front room playing board games. 361 00:14:13,675 --> 00:14:15,445 Late at night, Katie, her sister, 362 00:14:15,545 --> 00:14:16,925 and three boys were in a back bedroom 363 00:14:17,465 --> 00:14:20,845 and suddenly they heard a hum, a 364 00:14:20,965 --> 00:14:22,805 - Hum, - A low frequency hum. 365 00:14:23,385 --> 00:14:25,405 She noted that over the months they spent there, 366 00:14:25,665 --> 00:14:27,765 any time this specific hum sounded, 367 00:14:28,805 --> 00:14:29,765 everyone in the house knew 368 00:14:29,765 --> 00:14:31,165 something physical was about to happen. 369 00:14:31,585 --> 00:14:32,725 It was a precursor. 370 00:14:33,065 --> 00:14:34,365 And when the humming started this time, 371 00:14:34,505 --> 00:14:36,405 all the lights in the house instantly went out, 372 00:14:36,605 --> 00:14:37,645 a total blackout. 373 00:14:37,865 --> 00:14:40,285 - And then the environment aggressively shifts. 374 00:14:40,665 --> 00:14:43,205 She says, A light brighter than the sun came 375 00:14:43,205 --> 00:14:44,445 pouring through the bedroom window. 376 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:48,045 Not a flashlight, not a car headlight, a blinding, 377 00:14:48,115 --> 00:14:49,365 localized illumination. 378 00:14:49,905 --> 00:14:52,165 And then from every single orifice of the house, 379 00:14:52,165 --> 00:14:54,765 like it was coming out of the very drywall, the vents, 380 00:14:54,785 --> 00:14:57,605 the floorboards and electronic sounding voice emanated. 381 00:14:58,185 --> 00:14:59,965 The stereo equipment was completely turned 382 00:14:59,965 --> 00:15:01,005 off due to the blackout. 383 00:15:01,225 --> 00:15:03,285 But the voice pushed through the speakers anyway. 384 00:15:03,585 --> 00:15:05,965 - And the message it delivered is highly unusual 385 00:15:06,025 --> 00:15:07,405 for these types of encounters. 386 00:15:07,905 --> 00:15:08,965 It wasn't gibberish. 387 00:15:09,065 --> 00:15:11,565 It was a coherent, authoritative statement. 388 00:15:12,185 --> 00:15:15,325 The voice literally said, we have allowed you to remain. 389 00:15:15,495 --> 00:15:17,605 We've interfered with your lives very little. 390 00:15:18,035 --> 00:15:19,325 Your friends will be instructed 391 00:15:19,325 --> 00:15:21,085 to remain silent concerning us. 392 00:15:21,625 --> 00:15:23,005 - We have allowed you to remain. 393 00:15:23,275 --> 00:15:25,205 Imagine the psychological impact of 394 00:15:25,205 --> 00:15:27,285 that on a nine-year-old child sitting in the dark, 395 00:15:28,325 --> 00:15:31,205 a disembodied electronic voice, taking credit 396 00:15:31,265 --> 00:15:34,405 for the anomalies, confirming it has complete control over 397 00:15:34,405 --> 00:15:36,605 their environment and issuing a thinly 398 00:15:36,725 --> 00:15:37,965 veiled threat to keep quiet. 399 00:15:38,315 --> 00:15:41,005 - It's terrifying. And decades later, Katie, 400 00:15:41,025 --> 00:15:42,325 who had never returned to that property 401 00:15:42,325 --> 00:15:44,365 because of the trauma, agreed to go back 402 00:15:44,365 --> 00:15:48,125 with Andy Bustamonte, Paul Baban and the investigative team. 403 00:15:48,505 --> 00:15:50,205 And when they arrived standing 404 00:15:50,225 --> 00:15:52,805 by an old cistern on the property, they heard it again, 405 00:15:53,405 --> 00:15:54,925 a loud low frequency hum. 406 00:15:55,065 --> 00:15:56,525 Wow. The current owners of the ranch 407 00:15:56,525 --> 00:15:57,565 who had lived there peacefully 408 00:15:57,585 --> 00:15:59,365 for 30 years, had never heard it before. 409 00:15:59,745 --> 00:16:02,285 The phenomenon was seemingly reacting to Katie's return 410 00:16:02,545 --> 00:16:04,365 or the presence of the investigative team. 411 00:16:04,585 --> 00:16:07,925 - So we've got a former CIA clandestine operative, 412 00:16:08,485 --> 00:16:10,205 a hardened investigative journalist, 413 00:16:10,625 --> 00:16:12,725 and a woman confronting her childhood trauma, 414 00:16:13,445 --> 00:16:15,525 standing in a field, listening to a phantom hum. 415 00:16:15,785 --> 00:16:17,245 Mm. They don't just run away. 416 00:16:17,315 --> 00:16:19,245 They don't just sit around waiting to be scared. 417 00:16:19,595 --> 00:16:21,645 They design an active experience, right? 418 00:16:21,645 --> 00:16:24,125 - They go on the offensive. - They bring in a hammer radio 419 00:16:24,135 --> 00:16:27,005 specialist, an engineer named Jarris Dover Spike. 420 00:16:27,705 --> 00:16:29,765 The goal is audacious. Hmm. 421 00:16:30,035 --> 00:16:33,365 They wanna see if this unseen entity will communicate back. 422 00:16:33,785 --> 00:16:37,165 It prompted on that specific 1.6 gigahertz frequency. 423 00:16:37,165 --> 00:16:38,685 They keep finding, get these other hotspot, but 424 00:16:38,685 --> 00:16:42,285 - They run into a massive logistical and legal wall. 425 00:16:42,745 --> 00:16:44,525 As Jarris explains in the production notes, 426 00:16:44,625 --> 00:16:47,685 you cannot just randomly broadcast a human voice at 1.6 427 00:16:47,685 --> 00:16:48,965 gigahertz into the atmosphere. 428 00:16:49,385 --> 00:16:51,685 The FCC highly regulates that band. 429 00:16:51,865 --> 00:16:52,725 - The federal government 430 00:16:52,725 --> 00:16:53,845 does not mess around with that stuff. 431 00:16:54,145 --> 00:16:57,325 - No, they don't. If you start blasting unauthorized signals 432 00:16:57,325 --> 00:16:59,125 on a frequency reserve for satellites 433 00:16:59,125 --> 00:17:01,925 and aeronautics, federal authorities will pinpoint your 434 00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:03,725 location and shut you down incredibly fast. 435 00:17:03,825 --> 00:17:05,125 So they have to get creative. 436 00:17:05,565 --> 00:17:08,045 YRS takes advantage of a fundamental principle in wave 437 00:17:08,045 --> 00:17:09,405 physics called harmonics. 438 00:17:09,635 --> 00:17:11,525 - This part can get a little dent in the transcript. 439 00:17:11,525 --> 00:17:13,165 So let's break it down for everyone listening. 440 00:17:13,745 --> 00:17:16,445 How exactly is he legally hitting a restricted 441 00:17:16,445 --> 00:17:17,765 frequency? Think 442 00:17:17,765 --> 00:17:20,765 - Of it like plucking the thickest string on a guitar. 443 00:17:21,595 --> 00:17:23,245 When you pluck that low E string, 444 00:17:23,345 --> 00:17:25,005 you hear the main deep note 445 00:17:25,005 --> 00:17:26,525 that is your fundamental frequency. 446 00:17:27,185 --> 00:17:28,445 But physics dictates 447 00:17:28,445 --> 00:17:30,405 that the string doesn't just vibrate as a whole. 448 00:17:30,865 --> 00:17:32,805 It vibrates in halves, thirds 449 00:17:32,805 --> 00:17:34,645 and quarters simultaneously. Okay, I 450 00:17:34,645 --> 00:17:35,725 - Follow you. These 451 00:17:35,745 --> 00:17:38,005 - Create higher quieter notes 452 00:17:38,045 --> 00:17:39,485 that are mathematically related 453 00:17:39,485 --> 00:17:42,885 to the main note we call those overtones or harmonics. 454 00:17:43,765 --> 00:17:47,565 Gyrus is legally plucking a lower permitted radio frequency 455 00:17:47,565 --> 00:17:49,965 string, mathematically calculating it so 456 00:17:49,965 --> 00:17:53,485 that a naturally occurring harmonic will hit the exact 1.6 457 00:17:53,555 --> 00:17:56,205 gigahertz frequency they wanna target in the atmosphere 458 00:17:56,395 --> 00:17:57,605 - That is incredibly clever. 459 00:17:57,795 --> 00:17:59,965 They're legally projecting a shadow onto 460 00:18:00,125 --> 00:18:01,205 a restricted frequency. 461 00:18:01,385 --> 00:18:02,685 So they set up the experiment 462 00:18:03,265 --> 00:18:05,045 and they recreate the physical conditions 463 00:18:05,045 --> 00:18:06,325 of the 1970s incident. 464 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:09,565 They place old analog AM radios 465 00:18:09,565 --> 00:18:12,885 inside the house tuned strictly to static empty channels. 466 00:18:13,395 --> 00:18:14,525 This mimics the conditions 467 00:18:14,525 --> 00:18:15,805 of the blackout when the voice came 468 00:18:15,805 --> 00:18:16,965 through the unpowered stereo 469 00:18:17,585 --> 00:18:19,685 and they hook up a highly sensitive microphone 470 00:18:19,745 --> 00:18:23,285 to a spectrum analyzer to graphically display any audio 471 00:18:23,425 --> 00:18:26,285 or frequency anomalies that might occur in the room. They 472 00:18:26,285 --> 00:18:27,605 - Meticulously set the trap. 473 00:18:27,875 --> 00:18:30,045 Paul bein is out back scanning the skies 474 00:18:30,045 --> 00:18:31,325 with thermal and night vision. 475 00:18:31,835 --> 00:18:33,565 Andy Busante Gyrus 476 00:18:33,565 --> 00:18:35,605 and Katie are inside monitoring the 477 00:18:35,605 --> 00:18:37,085 cascading data on the screens. 478 00:18:37,235 --> 00:18:40,365 They broadcast a standard legal ham radio call into the 479 00:18:40,365 --> 00:18:42,765 atmosphere, cq CQ cq. 480 00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:44,365 This is a general call 481 00:18:44,525 --> 00:18:46,005 to any listening station basically 482 00:18:46,005 --> 00:18:47,045 saying, is anyone out there? 483 00:18:47,355 --> 00:18:49,485 - Nothing? Total silence, crickets. 484 00:18:49,545 --> 00:18:50,845 You can imagine the tension in the 485 00:18:50,845 --> 00:18:51,925 room just completely dropping. 486 00:18:52,225 --> 00:18:55,445 But then they have Katie speak the original experiencer, 487 00:18:55,665 --> 00:18:57,965 the one the ended entity seemingly addressed decades ago. 488 00:18:58,385 --> 00:18:59,965 She gets on the microphone broadcasting 489 00:18:59,965 --> 00:19:01,045 through the harmonic frequency 490 00:19:01,045 --> 00:19:03,405 and says, do you remember me, my sister, 491 00:19:03,425 --> 00:19:05,525 and the three boys were back and we'd like to talk to you. 492 00:19:05,905 --> 00:19:08,485 - And the response was instantaneous and violent. 493 00:19:09,185 --> 00:19:10,925 The highly sensitive microphone hooked 494 00:19:10,985 --> 00:19:13,445 to the static tuned AM radios inside the house 495 00:19:14,205 --> 00:19:16,845 registered a massive immediate spike in ambient energy. 496 00:19:17,585 --> 00:19:18,805 The spectrum analyzer, 497 00:19:18,805 --> 00:19:21,885 which maps the radio frequencies in the room started 498 00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:23,245 bouncing wildly. 499 00:19:23,825 --> 00:19:26,405 The baseline data was completely shattered. 500 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:28,565 - And this is where the human element is so striking. 501 00:19:29,065 --> 00:19:32,845 You have Andy Busante, a man who is literally trained 502 00:19:33,385 --> 00:19:35,925 by the CIA to remain completely stoic 503 00:19:35,925 --> 00:19:38,525 and analytical, under extreme life-threatening pressure. 504 00:19:38,625 --> 00:19:40,165 And even he breaks his composure. 505 00:19:40,635 --> 00:19:43,125 He's quoted in the source material saying, holy smokes, 506 00:19:43,125 --> 00:19:44,845 we just had a massive reaction from the house. 507 00:19:45,035 --> 00:19:46,365 Tons of energy coming from the house. 508 00:19:46,365 --> 00:19:47,965 It's bouncing all over the place. The 509 00:19:47,965 --> 00:19:49,485 - House actively reacted to her voice. 510 00:19:49,815 --> 00:19:51,925 Let's truly consider the implications of that data. 511 00:19:52,305 --> 00:19:54,445 We have a physical measurable reaction in the radio 512 00:19:54,445 --> 00:19:56,485 frequency spectrum to a human asking a 513 00:19:56,485 --> 00:19:58,125 localized question into the ether. 514 00:19:58,705 --> 00:20:00,165 - But wait, couldn't 515 00:20:00,165 --> 00:20:02,445 that massive spike just be a coincidence? 516 00:20:02,525 --> 00:20:04,445 I have to ask, on behalf of everyone listening, 517 00:20:05,575 --> 00:20:07,645 could Katie speaking have just coincided 518 00:20:07,645 --> 00:20:09,045 with a passing plane overhead 519 00:20:09,425 --> 00:20:11,245 or a glitch in the spectrum analyzer, 520 00:20:11,245 --> 00:20:12,845 or someone firing up a piece 521 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,205 of heavy machinery down the road? 522 00:20:14,315 --> 00:20:16,045 Yeah. How did they isolate it 523 00:20:16,045 --> 00:20:17,685 to prove it was reacting to her? 524 00:20:17,865 --> 00:20:20,325 - That's the beauty of using an isolated, 525 00:20:20,585 --> 00:20:24,165 static tuned analog system paired with a spectrum analyzer. 526 00:20:24,545 --> 00:20:26,125 The analyzer doesn't just show volume. 527 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,765 It shows the shape and origin of the frequency. 528 00:20:29,145 --> 00:20:30,685 The energy didn't come from the sky 529 00:20:30,695 --> 00:20:32,005 above them or the road outside. 530 00:20:32,145 --> 00:20:34,565 - Oh, it was inside. - The telemetry showed the energy 531 00:20:34,565 --> 00:20:37,525 spike originating from within the localized environment 532 00:20:37,525 --> 00:20:40,885 of the house itself, reacting precisely at the millisecond. 533 00:20:40,945 --> 00:20:43,725 She finished her sentence. It was a direct localized 534 00:20:44,005 --> 00:20:45,125 stimulus response mechanism, 535 00:20:45,175 --> 00:20:46,405 - Which is absolutely wild. 536 00:20:46,425 --> 00:20:47,605 So we've got a guy trained, 537 00:20:47,685 --> 00:20:49,725 a topple foreign network sitting in the dark 538 00:20:50,405 --> 00:20:51,925 watching a spectrum analyzer prove 539 00:20:52,075 --> 00:20:55,125 that an invisible entity is using ham radio harmonics 540 00:20:55,225 --> 00:20:56,645 to respond to a childhood trauma. 541 00:20:56,645 --> 00:20:58,285 Mm-hmm . It is objectively surreal. 542 00:20:58,545 --> 00:21:00,085 - If we connect this to the bigger picture. 543 00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:03,605 It is surreal, but it's also profoundly important science. 544 00:21:04,545 --> 00:21:07,125 We have an invisible anomaly in northern Colorado 545 00:21:07,235 --> 00:21:10,365 that can seemingly recognize a specific human voice from 546 00:21:10,365 --> 00:21:13,925 decades ago and physically manipulate the ambient radio 547 00:21:13,925 --> 00:21:15,845 frequency environment to show it's listening. 548 00:21:16,105 --> 00:21:19,045 It triggers an immediate measurable response. Right. 549 00:21:19,345 --> 00:21:20,645 But, and this is the crucial pivot. 550 00:21:21,025 --> 00:21:23,085 The phenomenon at Rocky Mountain Ranch, 551 00:21:23,375 --> 00:21:25,965 while psychologically terrifying to a child, 552 00:21:26,225 --> 00:21:27,605 didn't leave a trail of bodies, 553 00:21:27,865 --> 00:21:29,605 it turned the lights off and made a threat. 554 00:21:30,265 --> 00:21:33,405 So as investigators track this 1.6 gigahertz signal 555 00:21:33,435 --> 00:21:35,725 southward across the state's magnetic grids 556 00:21:35,725 --> 00:21:37,645 and fault lines, the question becomes 557 00:21:38,195 --> 00:21:41,005 what happens when this exact same phenomenon, 558 00:21:41,035 --> 00:21:44,125 this same underlying physics, turns deadly? 559 00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:46,045 - Here's where it gets really interesting 560 00:21:46,585 --> 00:21:48,005 and significantly darker. 561 00:21:48,305 --> 00:21:50,245 We follow the data, we follow the frequency, 562 00:21:50,425 --> 00:21:52,325 and we move from northern Colorado down 563 00:21:52,325 --> 00:21:53,565 to the southern central area 564 00:21:53,565 --> 00:21:54,765 of the state right near the border. 565 00:21:55,065 --> 00:21:57,205 We are heading into an arrow dove purgatory bridge 566 00:21:57,345 --> 00:21:59,685 and the Miller Triangle by the investigative team, 567 00:22:00,325 --> 00:22:01,925 specifically Miller Ranch Road. 568 00:22:02,265 --> 00:22:04,885 - And this is where the science has to confront a grim, 569 00:22:05,215 --> 00:22:06,805 undeniable physical reality. 570 00:22:07,465 --> 00:22:09,405 The statistics extracted from our sources 571 00:22:09,435 --> 00:22:11,685 regarding this specific stretch of rural highway 572 00:22:11,825 --> 00:22:13,565 and the bridge area are staggering. 573 00:22:14,195 --> 00:22:18,005 This highly localized location is linked to 15 human deaths. 574 00:22:18,595 --> 00:22:22,085 15 people have lost their lives in this specific tight 575 00:22:22,175 --> 00:22:23,325 geographic triangle. 576 00:22:23,585 --> 00:22:25,245 - And alongside that human tragedy, 577 00:22:25,295 --> 00:22:28,565 there are 16 documented cases of cattle mutilations. 578 00:22:29,265 --> 00:22:30,405 Now, the audience listening 579 00:22:30,405 --> 00:22:31,925 to this deep dive likely knows the 580 00:22:32,165 --> 00:22:33,205 hallmarks of these mutilations. 581 00:22:33,545 --> 00:22:35,365 We aren't talking about coyote scavengers. 582 00:22:35,665 --> 00:22:38,805 We are talking about the cord out organs, the total lack 583 00:22:38,805 --> 00:22:41,885 of blood in a thousand pound animal, the surgical precision. 584 00:22:42,385 --> 00:22:44,405 But what happens at Miller Ranch takes it a step 585 00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:45,645 further into the bizarre 586 00:22:45,795 --> 00:22:48,045 - Precisely to understand the severity 587 00:22:48,045 --> 00:22:49,365 of the Miller Ranch mutilations. 588 00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:51,525 Our sources point us to the historical work 589 00:22:51,525 --> 00:22:52,845 of a man named Gabe Valdez. 590 00:22:53,525 --> 00:22:55,845 Valdez was a highly respected New Mexico state police 591 00:22:55,845 --> 00:22:59,365 officer who spent over 30 years investigating these exact 592 00:22:59,365 --> 00:23:01,165 types of disturbing rural mutilations 593 00:23:01,265 --> 00:23:02,685 and their bizarre crossovers 594 00:23:02,685 --> 00:23:04,565 with UFO sightings in the border region 595 00:23:04,565 --> 00:23:05,685 of Colorado and New Mexico. 596 00:23:06,185 --> 00:23:07,925 - He wasn't a paranormal podcaster. 597 00:23:08,065 --> 00:23:10,605 He was a badge wearing meticulous law 598 00:23:10,605 --> 00:23:11,925 enforcement officer. Exactly. 599 00:23:12,645 --> 00:23:14,845 - Valdez approached these scenes like homicides, 600 00:23:15,345 --> 00:23:17,565 and what he found at these specific types 601 00:23:17,565 --> 00:23:21,005 of sites defied any conventional earthly explanation. 602 00:23:21,575 --> 00:23:24,445 We're talking about anomalous radiation tracks physically 603 00:23:24,445 --> 00:23:26,485 leading away from the carcasses into the brush. 604 00:23:27,105 --> 00:23:29,925 He documented strange mechanical client marks on the legs 605 00:23:29,925 --> 00:23:32,685 of the animals suggesting they had been hoisted or dropped. 606 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:35,325 He gathered thousands of pages 607 00:23:35,345 --> 00:23:38,165 of evidence showing bizarre aerial lights directly 608 00:23:38,165 --> 00:23:40,525 associated with the exact times of the deaths. 609 00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:42,645 - So you have a bridge and a stretch of road 610 00:23:42,675 --> 00:23:44,685 that is soaked up 15 human lives 611 00:23:45,145 --> 00:23:48,765 and fields that have seen 16 anomalous surgical mutilations 612 00:23:48,765 --> 00:23:51,125 with radiation tracks For a long time. 613 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:52,565 It was incredibly easy for the rest 614 00:23:52,565 --> 00:23:53,885 of the world to just write this off. 615 00:23:54,545 --> 00:23:56,685 The deaths were called rural traffic tragedies. 616 00:23:57,065 --> 00:23:58,405 The mutilations were written off 617 00:23:58,405 --> 00:24:00,405 as deep conspiracy theories whispered in local 618 00:24:00,425 --> 00:24:01,485 diners, just local 619 00:24:01,645 --> 00:24:02,645 - Folklore. Right. 620 00:24:03,065 --> 00:24:06,085 - But then this modern team of XCIA 621 00:24:06,085 --> 00:24:07,645 and aerospace scientists show up. 622 00:24:07,755 --> 00:24:10,005 They don't care about the local diner gossip. 623 00:24:10,235 --> 00:24:12,845 They care about the fact that their spectrum analyzers 624 00:24:12,865 --> 00:24:15,605 and drone magnetometers are going absolutely crazy. 625 00:24:16,025 --> 00:24:17,525 As the production notes describe it, 626 00:24:17,595 --> 00:24:19,165 they essentially poke the hornet's nest 627 00:24:19,505 --> 00:24:21,245 - In episode five of the investigation, 628 00:24:21,245 --> 00:24:23,645 which is literally titled Purgatory Bridge. 629 00:24:23,755 --> 00:24:25,285 Yeah. Andy Busante 630 00:24:25,285 --> 00:24:27,245 and Paul Biba returned to Miller Ranch 631 00:24:27,305 --> 00:24:29,325 to investigate this exact triangle 632 00:24:29,465 --> 00:24:31,125 of highway deaths and mutilations. 633 00:24:31,875 --> 00:24:33,605 They aren't relying on the ghost stories. 634 00:24:33,635 --> 00:24:36,045 They are actively looking for the scientific footprint. 635 00:24:36,155 --> 00:24:39,085 They are scanning for that 1.6 gigahertz frequency. 636 00:24:39,155 --> 00:24:41,405 They are mapping the magnetic anomalies in 637 00:24:41,405 --> 00:24:42,485 the earth beneath the bridge. 638 00:24:42,635 --> 00:24:44,525 - Imagine you're driving down a quiet country 639 00:24:44,595 --> 00:24:46,285 road and you cross a bridge. 640 00:24:47,105 --> 00:24:49,765 You hear the thud of the tires on the expansion joints. 641 00:24:49,865 --> 00:24:51,165 You think it's just infrastructure. 642 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:54,685 It's just rebar, concrete and asphalt suspended over a gap. 643 00:24:55,345 --> 00:24:56,405 But the data that Andy 644 00:24:56,405 --> 00:24:58,205 and Paul pull from this site suggests 645 00:24:58,205 --> 00:24:59,485 that it's something entirely different. 646 00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:01,645 When they investigate purgatory bridge, 647 00:25:02,025 --> 00:25:04,925 the sources reveal a crucial, terrifying finding. 648 00:25:05,745 --> 00:25:08,485 The team discovers hard telemetry based evidence 649 00:25:08,635 --> 00:25:11,565 that the Miller Ranch and Purgatory Bridge site is directly 650 00:25:11,625 --> 00:25:12,845 scientifically linked 651 00:25:12,865 --> 00:25:15,085 to the anomalies it Skin Walker Ranch in Utah. 652 00:25:15,435 --> 00:25:16,805 - This raises an important question. 653 00:25:17,315 --> 00:25:20,405 What exactly connects a heavily guarded ranch in the UTA 654 00:25:20,405 --> 00:25:23,045 Basin of Utah to a deadly rural bridge in 655 00:25:23,045 --> 00:25:24,085 South central Colorado? 656 00:25:24,585 --> 00:25:27,285 Our sources show the investigators finding overlapping data 657 00:25:27,315 --> 00:25:28,725 sets the same frequency, 658 00:25:28,725 --> 00:25:30,485 spikes the same magnetic deviations. 659 00:25:30,585 --> 00:25:33,445 Is it a massive interconnected underground magnetic anomaly 660 00:25:33,445 --> 00:25:34,725 spanning hundreds of miles? 661 00:25:35,185 --> 00:25:37,525 Are these locations nodes on a larger grid? 662 00:25:37,785 --> 00:25:41,445 - If the science confirms that the events causing 15 deaths 663 00:25:41,505 --> 00:25:45,285 and 16 mutilations are part of a larger interconnected grid 664 00:25:45,285 --> 00:25:48,085 of hotspots, it fundamentally shifts 665 00:25:48,085 --> 00:25:50,365 how we view these isolated rural tragedies. 666 00:25:50,365 --> 00:25:51,445 They aren't isolated at all. 667 00:25:51,635 --> 00:25:53,165 It's like discovering that a series 668 00:25:53,165 --> 00:25:56,085 of random house fires were actually all caused 669 00:25:56,145 --> 00:25:59,485 by the same faulty wiring grid underneath the entire city. 670 00:25:59,705 --> 00:26:01,805 - And this is where the science validates the terror. 671 00:26:02,305 --> 00:26:05,285 It is one thing to have a local legend about a deadly bridge 672 00:26:05,285 --> 00:26:07,925 where cars mysteriously crash and cows die. 673 00:26:07,925 --> 00:26:10,405 People can dismiss that as statistics and predators, 674 00:26:10,825 --> 00:26:12,805 but it is another reality entirely. 675 00:26:12,955 --> 00:26:15,525 When a former CIA covert operative 676 00:26:15,525 --> 00:26:18,325 and a Peabody award-winning journalist capture raw hard 677 00:26:18,325 --> 00:26:20,045 data, proving an unseen act 678 00:26:20,045 --> 00:26:22,565 of presence is manipulating the physical environment. 679 00:26:22,705 --> 00:26:24,365 - The numbers don't lie. - They don't. 680 00:26:24,905 --> 00:26:26,405 The localized radiation levels, 681 00:26:26,505 --> 00:26:27,965 the sudden temperature anomalies, 682 00:26:27,965 --> 00:26:29,965 the aggressive radio frequency spikes. 683 00:26:30,305 --> 00:26:32,885 It paints a picture of a physical mechanism at work, 684 00:26:33,145 --> 00:26:35,325 - And that physical mechanism has consequences. 685 00:26:36,105 --> 00:26:37,965 The team isn't encountering a ghost 686 00:26:37,985 --> 00:26:39,045 in the traditional sense. 687 00:26:39,515 --> 00:26:41,005 They're encountering measurable, 688 00:26:41,005 --> 00:26:42,685 sometimes dangerous energies. 689 00:26:43,945 --> 00:26:45,405 At Bradshaw Ranch in Sedona, 690 00:26:45,415 --> 00:26:47,805 which is another interconnected site they investigated, 691 00:26:47,995 --> 00:26:50,165 they found dangerous levels of radiation 692 00:26:50,225 --> 00:26:52,085 and severe temperature anomalies 693 00:26:52,085 --> 00:26:53,445 that physically affected the crew. 694 00:26:53,985 --> 00:26:56,365 - The executive producer of the series, David Carr, 695 00:26:56,505 --> 00:26:57,525 stated in our sources 696 00:26:57,595 --> 00:26:59,885 that their findings push the understanding 697 00:26:59,905 --> 00:27:01,925 of whether merging dimensions are based 698 00:27:01,925 --> 00:27:03,125 on physical realities. 699 00:27:03,505 --> 00:27:05,285 He said, there are revelations 700 00:27:05,285 --> 00:27:07,045 that we find pretty compelling, 701 00:27:07,345 --> 00:27:10,245 and Andy Busante used a very specific intelligence term. 702 00:27:10,505 --> 00:27:11,725 He noted that they encountered 703 00:27:11,725 --> 00:27:13,845 what he called near peer competition. 704 00:27:14,035 --> 00:27:15,085 - Near peer competition. 705 00:27:15,085 --> 00:27:16,805 Let's break that down because in military terms, 706 00:27:17,235 --> 00:27:19,765 near peer means an adversary that has technology 707 00:27:19,845 --> 00:27:21,605 and capabilities roughly equal to 708 00:27:21,825 --> 00:27:25,045 or slightly exceeding your own, like the US and China. 709 00:27:25,425 --> 00:27:28,565 But what does near peer mean in a paranormal context? It 710 00:27:28,565 --> 00:27:30,125 - Means they aren't dealing with a passive 711 00:27:30,235 --> 00:27:31,365 atmospheric glitch. 712 00:27:31,635 --> 00:27:33,845 They are dealing with a sophisticated interference 713 00:27:33,845 --> 00:27:36,445 that actively counters their investigative methods 714 00:27:36,875 --> 00:27:38,045 when they deploy a drone. 715 00:27:38,225 --> 00:27:42,325 The GPS is actively spoofed when they broadcast a frequency, 716 00:27:42,685 --> 00:27:43,805 a harmonic response. 717 00:27:44,265 --> 00:27:46,165 It suggests an intelligence, whether 718 00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:49,125 that is a deeply entrenched, classified human coverup 719 00:27:49,425 --> 00:27:52,245 or a non-human intelligence operating on a physics model, 720 00:27:52,245 --> 00:27:53,805 we barely comprehend. So 721 00:27:53,805 --> 00:27:54,805 - What did this all mean? 722 00:27:54,805 --> 00:27:57,085 I want to ask you the listener right now. 723 00:27:57,135 --> 00:28:00,165 We've covered a lot of ground today from nuclear ICBM 724 00:28:00,365 --> 00:28:02,125 operators to 1970s blackouts 725 00:28:02,125 --> 00:28:03,925 to 15 deaths on a Colorado highway. 726 00:28:04,545 --> 00:28:05,885 Why does a bridge in Colorado 727 00:28:05,945 --> 00:28:08,725 or a ranch in Utah matter to you sitting comfortably at home 728 00:28:08,725 --> 00:28:09,725 or driving on your commute? 729 00:28:09,985 --> 00:28:11,285 Why should you care about LB band 730 00:28:11,285 --> 00:28:12,565 frequencies or ancient cisterns? 731 00:28:12,865 --> 00:28:15,325 - It matters because it proves that the boundaries 732 00:28:15,525 --> 00:28:17,845 of our known physics are incredibly fragile. 733 00:28:18,505 --> 00:28:20,685 We live our lives trusting the laws of gravity, 734 00:28:21,065 --> 00:28:23,085 thermodynamics, and physical geography. 735 00:28:23,505 --> 00:28:24,845 We trust that when we drive over 736 00:28:24,925 --> 00:28:26,005 a bridge, it's just a bridge. 737 00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:27,805 But the Miller Ranch Road Bridge 738 00:28:27,895 --> 00:28:29,005 isn't happening in a vacuum. 739 00:28:29,585 --> 00:28:30,725 It represents a reality 740 00:28:30,725 --> 00:28:33,525 where high strangeness isn't just a quirky 741 00:28:33,525 --> 00:28:34,845 story for a late night show. 742 00:28:35,305 --> 00:28:37,325 It has a literal physical body 743 00:28:37,325 --> 00:28:38,325 - Count. 744 00:28:38,325 --> 00:28:40,085 15 people, 16 animals. Exactly. 745 00:28:40,585 --> 00:28:42,725 - It means the environment around us harbors, 746 00:28:42,785 --> 00:28:44,485 unseen mechanisms, energies, 747 00:28:44,585 --> 00:28:46,845 or even intelligences that operate completely 748 00:28:46,995 --> 00:28:49,325 outside our current understanding of the natural world. 749 00:28:49,545 --> 00:28:52,005 - And what's so vital about the way this team investigates 750 00:28:52,545 --> 00:28:55,445 is the absolute impartiality of their data collection. 751 00:28:55,445 --> 00:28:56,485 Yeah, I love this. 752 00:28:56,505 --> 00:28:59,005 One comment I found deep in the Reddit threads discussing 753 00:28:59,005 --> 00:29:02,085 the show, a username j recite was praising the show's 754 00:29:02,285 --> 00:29:04,525 grounded approach and said, it is mindless entertainment. 755 00:29:04,555 --> 00:29:06,605 With no political bs, ghosts, 756 00:29:06,605 --> 00:29:08,445 and aliens never have any political leanings 757 00:29:08,445 --> 00:29:09,525 or societal agendas. 758 00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:12,445 Humanity should be more like ghosts and aliens. 759 00:29:12,585 --> 00:29:13,845 - That's incredibly well put. 760 00:29:14,105 --> 00:29:16,525 - It really is. Yeah. And while they joke about it being 761 00:29:16,525 --> 00:29:18,925 mindless entertainment, the core truth of 762 00:29:18,925 --> 00:29:20,165 that statement is profound. 763 00:29:21,185 --> 00:29:22,845 The raw terrifying data 764 00:29:22,865 --> 00:29:25,645 of the universe doesn't care about our human drama, 765 00:29:25,665 --> 00:29:26,765 it doesn't care about our beliefs. 766 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,645 It just exists. Andy 767 00:29:28,645 --> 00:29:30,725 and Paul aren't jumping to conclusions blindly. 768 00:29:30,835 --> 00:29:32,285 They're just observing the data 769 00:29:32,345 --> 00:29:34,245 as it aggressively pushes back against them. 770 00:29:34,665 --> 00:29:36,205 - And as I've always maintained, 771 00:29:36,205 --> 00:29:39,125 knowledge is only truly valuable when it is understood 772 00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:40,205 and applied for decades. 773 00:29:40,425 --> 00:29:42,125 The people living near these anomalies, 774 00:29:42,125 --> 00:29:43,245 people like Katie Page, 775 00:29:43,245 --> 00:29:44,845 or the ranchers dealing with Valdez, 776 00:29:45,275 --> 00:29:46,765 were just victims of the unknown. 777 00:29:46,875 --> 00:29:49,005 They suffered the trauma, the losses, the fear 778 00:29:49,005 --> 00:29:50,325 of the unexplained blackouts. 779 00:29:50,785 --> 00:29:52,445 But by understanding that these portals 780 00:29:52,445 --> 00:29:54,645 or spatial anomalies leave a scientific footprint, 781 00:29:54,675 --> 00:29:57,005 like a localized burst of ionizing radiation, 782 00:29:57,565 --> 00:30:00,045 a 1.6 gigahertz frequency transmission, 783 00:30:00,225 --> 00:30:02,085 or a massive magnetic deviation, 784 00:30:02,585 --> 00:30:04,845 we move from being helpless victims of the unknown 785 00:30:05,145 --> 00:30:07,205 to being active observers of a much larger, 786 00:30:07,355 --> 00:30:08,725 much more complex reality. 787 00:30:08,905 --> 00:30:10,605 - We get to map the monster, so to speak, 788 00:30:10,755 --> 00:30:12,125 instead of running from the dark. 789 00:30:12,145 --> 00:30:14,485 We are bringing in night vision, thermal imaging, 790 00:30:14,665 --> 00:30:15,765 and gamma cameras. 791 00:30:16,225 --> 00:30:18,725 We are forcing the unknown to step into the light 792 00:30:18,725 --> 00:30:19,845 of the scientific method, 793 00:30:20,035 --> 00:30:21,805 even if it kicks and screams along the way. 794 00:30:21,995 --> 00:30:25,045 - Exactly. But it also leaves us with a profound, 795 00:30:25,305 --> 00:30:27,485 almost philosophical mystery to consider 796 00:30:27,485 --> 00:30:29,445 regarding the physical spaces we occupy. 797 00:30:30,145 --> 00:30:33,005 We spent a lot of time today talking about a bridge in South 798 00:30:33,005 --> 00:30:36,325 central Colorado, a specific piece of infrastructure tied 799 00:30:36,565 --> 00:30:39,805 to 15 deaths, bizarre mutilations, and hidden frequencies. 800 00:30:40,385 --> 00:30:42,365 But I want you to consider the actual physics 801 00:30:42,465 --> 00:30:44,285 and geography of what a bridge is. 802 00:30:44,945 --> 00:30:46,085 - Uh, where are we going with this? 803 00:30:46,175 --> 00:30:48,965 - Think about what a bridge actually does to an environment. 804 00:30:49,225 --> 00:30:52,325 You are taking thousands of tons of steel, iron, rebar, 805 00:30:52,325 --> 00:30:55,445 and concrete, and you are suspending it in the 806 00:30:55,505 --> 00:30:56,885 air, overflowing water. 807 00:30:57,275 --> 00:30:59,925 Flowing water naturally generates its own energetic 808 00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:01,045 and magnetic currents. 809 00:31:01,425 --> 00:31:04,365 By building a bridge, you are essentially creating a massive 810 00:31:04,965 --> 00:31:06,165 artificial faraday cage, 811 00:31:06,765 --> 00:31:08,965 a huge metallic structure suspended in 812 00:31:08,965 --> 00:31:10,005 a magnetic field. Oh, 813 00:31:10,025 --> 00:31:11,025 - Wow. 814 00:31:11,025 --> 00:31:12,125 I never thought about it like that. If the 815 00:31:12,125 --> 00:31:15,045 - Miller Ranch Road Bridge is indeed a physical portal 816 00:31:15,105 --> 00:31:17,805 or an anomaly zone, as the local claims 817 00:31:17,905 --> 00:31:20,485 and the new scientific telemetry seem to suggest, 818 00:31:21,265 --> 00:31:23,485 is it possible that the infrastructure we build 819 00:31:23,505 --> 00:31:26,365 to cross physical space is inadvertently acting 820 00:31:26,465 --> 00:31:28,285 as a massive magnetic conductor? 821 00:31:28,985 --> 00:31:31,685 Are we accidentally building massive energetic anchors 822 00:31:31,685 --> 00:31:32,725 for these anomalies? 823 00:31:33,465 --> 00:31:36,445 Are we by altering the physical environment with thousands 824 00:31:36,445 --> 00:31:38,925 of tons of suspended steel to connect point A 825 00:31:38,925 --> 00:31:41,125 to point B somehow bridging a dimensional 826 00:31:41,145 --> 00:31:42,205 gap we can't even see? 827 00:31:42,435 --> 00:31:43,765 - That is a staggering thought. 828 00:31:43,765 --> 00:31:45,285 To leave off on our, 829 00:31:45,385 --> 00:31:47,765 our physical bridges are highway overpasses acting 830 00:31:47,765 --> 00:31:49,005 as dimensional lightning rods 831 00:31:49,005 --> 00:31:50,525 because of their sheer metallic mass 832 00:31:50,585 --> 00:31:51,765 and placement over water. 833 00:31:52,145 --> 00:31:54,085 It makes you look at every single overpass, 834 00:31:54,085 --> 00:31:55,445 every quiet country road you drive 835 00:31:55,445 --> 00:31:56,765 down just a little bit differently. 836 00:31:57,245 --> 00:31:59,485 I hope this deep dive has given you a completely new 837 00:31:59,485 --> 00:32:01,925 perspective on how cutting edge science is finally catching 838 00:32:01,925 --> 00:32:03,965 up to the stories we've told in the dark for centuries. 839 00:32:04,355 --> 00:32:06,245 Keep looking a little closer at the world around you. 840 00:32:06,315 --> 00:32:07,605 Keep questioning the unknown 841 00:32:08,025 --> 00:32:11,685 and remember that sometimes the raw data is far more 842 00:32:11,685 --> 00:32:12,965 terrifying than the ghost story. 843 00:32:13,505 --> 00:32:15,845 Thanks for exploring with us and we'll see you next time.