Alright, well it's Thursday and you are listening to yet another episode of Dayz of the nu I am Kevin, as always, joined by Nick. How you doing, Nick? Hey, I'm alright. I've had. I've had better weeks, so my voice doesn't sound top notch. That's because I had my sinus cavities purged by balloons and apparently I had weird polyps that had to be removed. And yeah, I'm in day two of recovery from that. Good God, it's Yeah, a. getting old is a real *****. Yeah, man, got polyps. It's a bad week for balloons. It's Yeah, just a. yeah, yeah, yeah. I had Chinese spy balloons floating around my sinus cavities. Joe Biden shot him down, though, so we're we're fine. Sleepy Joe got him. Yeah, man. No, I feel you. It's been it was kind of a **** week for me. I finally took a mental health day on Friday. It did me a lot of good. Although I guess, like the whole thing about I realized as I'm telling my coworkers, like, I gotta take a mental health day. What I'm really doing is like ruining the element of surprise. What do you mean? Now they're like, oh, he's letting a little steam out of the kettle. Ohh Like, yeah. I want them all thinking like, is today the day? Now that's gone. That's gone. But I do feel better now. I'm about to make us feel much, much worse. Nick, do you like movies? Yeah, naturally. As a human American, I do like Phil. Well, I've decided to dedicate the next hour of no our audio medium to talk about the visual medium of film. Great. This went really good with our Linkin Park video episode. Maybe our least listened to show ever. That was a really bad idea. But I feel like we've learned from that. And just to help kind of shepherd us through this, we are once again joined by resident cinephile and friend of the show, Mogen Brown Mogen, welcome back. Hey, guys. What's up, man? Yeah. How you been? Uh, been alright, been alright. Done some stuff since we last chatted, toured with some bands and also been not working. So yeah, been alright. Excellent. So Kevin, I must say I have not had a drop of alcohol in three days which is probably a multi year record. So I did watch this movie sober. I have been sober since I watched this movie and I feel like I need a drink. God. Are you allowed to doctor's orders? Can you have a little tipple? I think I'm. I think I'm clear today. But it's a it's a little early, so I'm just gonna I might just ride this out for a little while longer. We'll see. Ohh, yeah God bless you man. I have a kombucha. There's jay like a tiny bit alcohol on this, right? Let's see how many kombuchas it'll take to get you through this. yeah OK, so most listeners of this show already know that along with being the vocalist of Limp Bizkit and Soviet sleeper agent Fred Durst is a director. Fred broke into directing all the way back in 1997 with the Limp Bizkit Video Sour, which I had no idea really existed until researching this. Basically it's like good old fashioned domestic violence **** shaming. Ah, yeah, Yeah, naturally. you've got Fred. And random girl arguing in a bedroom? Pack your **** and leave. And I think Tony Hawk is this gardener. the Yeah, there's it opens with this weird *** gardener who gets like a whole introduction scene, and at the very end of it, he turns on the sprinklers. This woman's trying to leave and Fred and the gang and the gardener, like got that ***** like she's yeah trying to do is get out of there. That was his first try at cinema. You're very kind with that statement. no So from that first video, Fred went all in. He directed videos for the whole gang, to name a few. He did corns falling away from me. He did stains. It's been a while. And every Limp Bizkit video, he's done them all. It's a quick way to get double paid. Yeah, right. It's also the opportunity to experiment, try, fail, and try again with fairly large budgets and No Fear of repercussions. Honestly, that's what allowed him to refine his directorial skills. Well, sure. And he was the vice president of Interscope Records, so who was going to tell him no? He was like the final decision maker. Yeah, exactly. And if even if he made a ***** ** **** video, is TRL just not going to play the new Limp Bizkit video? The 2000s were full of ***** ** **** videos. Yeah. We covered them all the time on this show. As far as a ***** ** **** video goes, I think that the Limp Bizkit catalog, it's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah. I mean, I suppose rolling on the Yeah. 9/11. The. Yeah, OK, no so that one didn't age well. Basically what I'm saying is that to his credit, he is good at the format. He knows how to bring across the personalities of the individual musicians, and some of the videos are funny and others are dark and brooding, but he has range and he has an eye for detail. Now that's the bread of this compliment sandwich, because he also did the video for the the cover of the Who's behind Blue Eyes where he makes out with Halle Berry. And she deserves an Oscar and a herpes test for that performance. Do you remember that one? Yeah, Ohh yeah. yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, as if the song wasn't bad enough. I wonder what Holly Berry got paid for that video. Was a movie tie in, wasn't it? Yeah, swordfish. No, No. no. This is after swordfish. This was, what was it called, gothica or Yeah. Ohh yeah, yeah. Was that? it was. Nothing says Gothic like The Who. And Limp Bizkit. uh Fred would get his break directing feature length films in 2007 with the film The Education of Charlie Banks. no I have no idea what the **** this movie is about. Pretty good cast though. Yeah. Yeah, you got Yeah, Jesse like. Eisenberg and The Winter Soldier. Yeah, and Susan Sarandon's daughter. Is that really? Yeah, that's Yeah. way for America is. I Hmm. didn't know that. Kind of a kind of a baby at that time. So it 1 Tribeca Film Festival's best new narrative, and it got a limited theatrical release where it grossed $15,000 against a $5 million budget. yeah God, it must be nice to be rich. Oh yeah. Yeah, the reviews are split on it currently holds up score on Rotten Tomatoes. And at the time, Rolling Stone called it an earnest if romanticized, examination of the American class system in the late 1970s and early and the eternally confounding politics of acceptance and exclusion. Oh, you know, that's a world that Fred Durst is well versed in as he was scratching tattoos in a backyard in Jacksonville. Hmm. I didn't see a lot of rolling in this in this trailer, but yeah, bunch of rich kids punching each other, but yeah, boarding school. the But yeah. Have you seen this film? I've never seen this film. OK, well, with the with the 48% Rotten Tomatoes and the box office hall, I'd say this was his peak as a filmmaker. You're not that far off. He would get another. He would get another at bat. So the next year, he directed the feel good comedy the long Shots, starring family values Tourmate no Ice cube. no no no no no So now Sorry. you've seen the entire movie right now in that? Do you do you think that Fred Darris directs in his Limp Bizkit voice? Do you think he's like camera left, camera right? Reset action. Take a look around. Roll and roll and rolling. Ohh. uh So on Rotten Tomatoes, the long shots actually has a approval rating. I'll look at that. Yeah, but on the critics side it has about the same as the education of Charlie Banks. Hmm. This too was a box office flop, grossing million against a million I can't believe it. It pulled it that much money to be honest. Yeah, I mean yeah. that barely probably covered ice cubes paycheck. I mean, it's mighty ducks about football, I mean, you know. Yeah, it's airbud about people. what Yeah. Now over 2, this would be the last we'd hear from Fred no Durst, Hollywood director for the next 11 years until when Durst would reemerge not only as a director but the writer of the Fanatic starring John Travolta. So all three of us have watched this film I Yep. made, made my poor, lovely girlfriend sit through this one with me. Ohh. Yeah, yeah, I Valentine's owe her week, no her. less. Yeah. I brought her a lovely bouquet of flowers and I still owe her for this. Yeah, yes you do. So yeah, let's talk about the fanatics. So I want to quote from an article from Deadline, because I do think it's important to tell you guys just exactly how this was funded from deadline quiver distribution, an indie film company launched this year by former. E1 exec Barry Meyerowitz, an ex Lionsgate films president Jeff Sackman, has firmed up ties with Redbox Entertainment. Yeah, quiver entertainment, producers of such films as Nutcracker massacre and ***** ***. ***** ***. Tell me more about ***** ***. ***** *** the movie. Yeah, it's it's just called ***** ***. How did I miss the book? Yeah. Hang on, hang on. I'm clicking, I'm clicking. Ohh sorry guys, this page could not be found. That IMDb. oh Now I'm on a quiver distributions web page. I'm Well. I'm just trying to see if there's any movie that they've made that I recognize and I they got one called 911. They have one called chickfight that's probably sweet. Android Uprising skin a history of nudity and movies. See, that's the kind of, That's, that's yeah. the kind of production company I trust that Fred Durst Wait, that's a movie? is gonna go to. That is that is a movie. Also, they have one called the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson. Hmm. Oh, I've heard of that. Ohh. Is that starting minus ivari? Yeah, I think it does. I uh, I saw a trailer for it and it's looks awful, yeah. Ohh, I'd I I just they just keep bringing the hits. This one's called the undercover grandpa. Are these real movies or posters in the back of like Adam Sandler movies like Yeah, yeah. I'm not making this up. No, anybody that wants can just head right over to quiverdistribution.com. Hmm. There's easily a dozen more I could have called out, but yeah, they are. They also have a movie called Mighty Aphrodite, which I feel like was like an Academy award-winning and film from like 20 years ago that Hmm. I'm guessing they just remade on a shoestring budget. Going back to this deadline article, the no strategic partnership is rooted in the releases of the fanatics starring John Travolta and running with the Devil with Nicolas Cage. Quiver is Co financing and Co producing projects alongside Redbox Entertainment. The focus will be on talent driven projects that appeal to Redbox customers with an affinity for action, comedy and suspense slash thriller titles. Such as ***** ***. ***** ***. Movies directed at people who are still renting physical discs out of the the vending machine at a Walgreens, right? That's a Redbox Yeah, is right? I mean, they're they're target audience. The people that go there aren't even nothing good on Netflix anymore. Their target audience is me drunk at a 711 going ohh **** Transformers hitting that and then waking up at the bar going transmorphers. What the **** is this? Hmm. Snakes on a train? Yeah. Yeah. yeah But I mean, it's never a good sign if your business plan in 2020 hinges on the success of John Travolta and Nick Cage. There Uh. but for the grace of God they go. Hmm. So as I mentioned, this particular project was written by Durst. It was a long time in the making. So in an interview with John Travolta, Travolta says about 15 years ago, Fred had wanted to meet me to explore movies and the possibility of film. It took 15 years, but he found a subject matter, says Travolta. We met up in a bathhouse in Van Nuys. no He says he wrote a script with me in mind and submitted it to me. It had been so long I thought, well, could this possibly be after 15 years? And then boom, it was this incredible script with an incredible vision that he had so specific his vision, I just couldn't wait to be a part of it. So. That would have been like or 4, when Fred Durst could actually summon a meeting with John Travolta, and then they reunite no 15 years later when? When they needed each other, Yeah. The. John Travolta was entering his second Broken Arrow era of filmmaking. yeah All right, let's get into this masterpiece. The film opens with a quote from a character in this movie, Hunter Dunbar, played by the actor Devon Sawa from final destination and Casper fame. Well, you don't know that. When the movie, I didn't know that. No, I I had thought no no. idea. it was like I literally wrote down who God. was Hunter Dunbar thinking it was like Nietzsche or like. Yeah, I pause it cause my girlfriend's like you should find out who said that quote and Hmm. I so I type in hunt. Did you guys all just Google Hunter Dunbar? Yes, immediately. Yes. So you found out what that is, right? Like where the name came from? No. Well, No. no. So the hunter Dunbar Expedition no Ohh no. was a an expedition into the Louisiana Purchase ordered by Thomas Jefferson by two explorers named Hunter and Dunbar. So I don't know the relevance of why they took those two guys names and made this. Also Hunter Dunbar is the name of an art studio in New York City. But anyway, oh yes, there is a quote from Hunter Dunbar at the beginning of this movie, Hmm. so I paused this stupid thing so I could find out. That it turns out it's just a fictional yeah quote from a fictional character played by a guy that they say is Devon Sawa. But I've seen no evidence that it's actually But Devon. that doesn't mean spoiler alert. Doesn't Hunter Dunbar not even say that in the movie? Doesn't moose tell him That is Hunter correct. Deer fans? Or you're no one without your fans or something like Yeah, beat so it's it's it's like sort a miss. of like the the you only miss the shots you don't take, Wayne Gretzky quoted Michael Scott. You know? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's the first big **** you to the audience that Hmm. you get. Hmm. It will not be the last. So we get a little bit of opening monologue from a tertiary character named Leah, which is weird as she gets like 5 total minutes of screen time, but whatever. Hmm. Well, and also the her monologues don't have any proper cadence. Like No. there she is and then there she is and then like minutes goes by and then she comes back and then she like wraps it up. Yeah, Mm-hmm. exactly. Go. That's. Ohh. Does she ever? yeah It's really setting up the introduction of our hero moose. no I love how the score and just the cinematic overtones make it sound like we're about to enter like a movie about the Holocaust. yeah Instead, Kevin, what do you tell him? Why don't you tell him what this movie really is about? OK, so the fanatic tells the story of a man named Moose, played by Travolta. Or as I like to call him. Throwback to the body count episode, There you go. when you told me we were covering a movie called The Fanatic, I thought we were covering the classic Robert De Niro Wesley Snipes film The Fan. Ohh. No. And Directed yeah. by Tony Scott. Yeah. Yeah, and you know similar films. Umm, Similar films. yeah. So right out the gate there's two important things to know about moose. He is an avid collector of bee movie horror ephemera, and he's on the spectrum. So. That's a nice way of putting it. Well, how would you describe the characterization of Moose gang? Moose looks like a man who has one or two loose turds rolling around in his underpants at all time. no They describe him as a mean OK. characterization of people with emotional disabilities, but you know, yeah, it's. It's it's It's not a complete good. and no. Yeah, I think that the first note I wrote was um riding the bus with my sister. Have you ever heard of this film? No. No. It's a made for TV movie from I think, the early 2000s, where um Rosie O'Donnell plays a developmentally disabled woman who rides the bus, but literally plays it like someone making fun of a child. no And it's they're thoroughly bad. But yeah, it was the same type of portrayal. Yeah, this isn't played with any subtlety, and in fact John Travolta is really proud of this character that he created and I think he really, really enjoyed what he put into this role. It opens with a happy go lucky Moose riding his scooter around LA before getting to Hollywood book and poster, a store specializing in all the stuff that moose is into. Collectibles, autographs, movie props, the usual. Here's his first line of dialogue. I think, I think Joanne, my girlfriend no just said Jesus Christ. I'm sorry, I can't. yeah So I actually can relate. So as a young man, every time I got to go to the comic book shop, I would get so excited that I would basically have to **** my pants every time. And I can relate to moose as a man that's just ******* stoked to go to like this movie prop shop. Yeah, I like. blame the scooter. Oh, that's too vibrations. I can't imagine Moose also has like the healthiest, most balanced diet. No, no. This is a No. man who subsists on the on the individual packets of cheezits like, Yeah, but it's like like 50 Lunchables of them. and Lunchables and like cereal. Yeah. No, the cheese and crackers, yeah, yeah. Hmm. Yeah, ohh yeah. But before Moose goes to take a ship, he talks shop with the owner and we find out that not no only no has Moose scored an invite to the cast and crew wrap party for the new Hunter Dunbar flick Friday night Killer, but Hunter himself will be making an appearance at the store for a book signing of which Moose was unaware. Overcome with excitement, he digs into his ear canal with his finger and he pulls out some gunk and he eats it. I would. Hilarious. Through the whole movie he does this like touch the ear and smell the ear kind of thing MHM. Yeah. throughout the entire movie. Bruce is stoked, but he needs the perfect thing no for Dunbar to autograph, and that's when the shop owner shows him the vest. Yes, the space vampires vest. I really don't know what the **** is going on with this vest. Yeah, it's. It's like a black leather vest that has like a Rico spelled out in it and like bottle Yeah, caps. yeah. Yeah. Like disco Stew. Yeah. Yeah. And they never explained what Rico is. They. Yeah. I assume that's his character's name from space vampires, I. the movie that was apparently. They Filmed mean, it in seems like alley. they ripped it from Starship Troopers. I mean, was that the tape Yeah, that from Rico? yeah. He was gonna say space vampires. Appears to be filmed in the same alleyway behind the building that he punches that moose in later. So they haggle over the price and wouldn't you know it, moose gets no the vest, which he immediately puts on backwards. Hmm. So take a selfie with the vest and then he rides his scooter home with a vest put on backwards that says Rico in bedazzled. Whatever the ****. We also get these little segues at this point that are like illustrations, Yeah. very specific drawing Ohh. style of different scenes that moose is doing, to which we wondered if Wes Borland somehow Hmm. did the artwork, but No, I don't He he did did. not. know, he did. He He did, did. it said There in the really credits. was It what? said animation by Wes Borland. Yeah. Alright, well it looks like W stuff, so alright, cool. On the the character Aaron, the shop proprietor. Yeah. He's played by actor Josh Richmond. I used the word actor very loosely. He was an 80s teen actor who I recognized because I'm a huge fan of the movie thrashin, the Josh Brolin skateboard movie. Yeah, yeah. He apparently used to manage Dead Sea. Seriously. Yeah. Man. OK. Bringing it all together. No. Yeah, yeah. Wow. no OK, so let's Fast forward to the wrap party. Moose is super nervous and he practices his witty banter and like lines in the mirror before showing up to this alley where Leah makes her first on-screen appearance. Now we know who this person is. The narrator, yeah. Yes. Also, let's not forget she's a paparazzi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a that. That's how she makes her living. That's kind of like the world that Moose operates in is, you know, this. And there's Los Angeles. Hollywood underground, yeah. Yeah, Hmm. so surprised they're not invited and Moose didn't bring bolt cutters, instead opting to bring a pair of scissors thinking they were the same thing. So. Yeah. Yeah. We get a moose. Ohh moose. no Yeah, big lovable galoot. Hmm. So over the fence moose goes solo and now he is in and it's about as uncomfortable as you can imagine with moose being moose. He walks up to the bartender and asks for a strawberry milkshake. Hmm. But. Morgan is not amused. Now, now there's like a movie for 8 year olds. Like, yeah. no yeah So yeah, the security finds some of they throw his *** out, and the following day Leah shows up angry about how Moose conducted himself. But they patched things up in life goes on. Right. I look angry that he acted inappropriately after she helped him break into an event that neither one of them was invited to. Yes, Because like. you made me look bad after I chucked you over the fence. What, Yeah. is she housing him? No. No, no. He OK. has a baller apartment She for some does. reason. OK, I thought. I thought there was some sort of connection where he was living in her home. No, no, But because OK. she knocks on the door to get into OK. his place. OK. And yet, let's talk about Moose's apartment for a minute. Yeah, so moose lives in just like a sweet loft apartment just laden with movie artifacts and posters. He's got a ******* popcorn machine A pop, in there. yeah, Hmm. Yeah. it's it's amazing Like like. LED lights all over the place. Yeah, an LA rent. It's like, yeah, it's it's amazing. It's amazingly Oh, it's all outfitted, brick. yeah. Nary, Yep. nary a stucco ceiling insight. Yeah. So at this point you may be wondering exactly what the **** it is moose does for a living. Anybody wanna take a stab at this one? Well, yeah. He stands outside of a man's Chinese theater, dressed like an English Bobby, Victor. Yeah, like yeah, Bobby. a Victorian era police officer. Putting a mustache over his beard? Yeah. Yeah, There. yeah, yeah. And yeah, it tries to, you know, take pictures with tourists for tips. That's Yep. that's how Moose affords his apartment. That's yeah, Apparently yeah. they do, yeah. Here's the scene of Moose getting into character. Oh no. *** **** it. no no Yeah. So. **** you, John Travolta. **** you, Fred Durst like. Yeah, yeah so not only that, but on the strip there are bully pickpockets. Like there's this guy who only owns two tank tops. He's like yeah a street magician, but he's not even that cause he just shoves a nail through his nose and starts bleeding everywhere. Yeah, and then he's got like a lackey that picks everybody's pocket while he's bleeding. After a few hours of that, it's off to the book signing, and Moose gets the VIP treatment by being escorted to the middle of the line. Yeah, no. He just yeah cuts in front of a bunch of people with like Yeah. just close enough to be cut off before he gets. Exactly. So just as he's next in line with his book and his Rico vest, this happens. So yeah, Brenda ***** everything up and he leaves before signing any of moose's stuff. His ex wives making him watch his kid. Yeah, yeah. She has a date. Brenda has a date, so Hunter is now stuck, you know, looking after his son, Boo. But Moose is undeterred, and he follows Hunter to the back alley where he's talking with Brenda, and he just cannot read the room. Ohh. no Ohh, yeah Hunter Dunbar's kind of * ****. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly it. Moose Commiserates with Leah, who then turns him on no to the star Map app, which is an app that just tells you where celebrities live. Which is a great key in moving this movie forward like. Yeah, this is divine inspiration for moose, and he sets in motion his totally not insane plan to get back in Hunter. Dunbar's good graces. Step one, write a letter. Yeah, yeah. This is basically OK. a stand moment. Are are you aware that that app is kind no of real? No. There is an app called Hollywood Celebrity Homes Tour. It is a self driving audio GPS guide to different celebrities homes. That just seems like a terrible idea. Sure is. Step 2 of this plane is to show up at Hunter Dunbar's house, who now happens to be walking up to the front gate with his son at that very moment. So Hunter grabs the pen and writes all over moose's shirt. I totally get Hunter's initial reaction, like that's a super scary experience for anyone, and I think all of his reactions towards moose are thus far are absolutely warranted. But then it just takes a hard left and it turns into a prick for no reason. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still kind of with him. Like, **** this guy. Get off my porch. uh But then he's just like a salting him and just, you know, like I I don't know, I would I said, just well, he has think. to be the villain. I mean if Fred Yeah, and yeah. they want, they want moose to be this hero, even though he's clearly trespassing and showing stalker tendencies, which let's not use the word stalker cause moose ******* Forget hates is it. it? Yeah, moose is not a ******* yeah stalker. What no moose is, is a man of principle. He owes Hunter Dunbar an apology and by God he is going to deliver it. So the next day he goes right back and this time he hops the fence, but his plot is foiled by a maid and he drops the letter on the ground and scurries away. He meets up with Leo one more time, who admonishes him for abusing the power of the Star Map app and warns him of the dangers of continuing down this road. This is not well received by Moose and he storms off, only to be accosted in broad daylight by tank top bully. And it is here that Moose finally snaps. no Guys, I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to address this. OK. I finally came upon the clinical definition of unusual feats of physicality that can be demonstrated by neurodivergent people, and it is called hysterical strength. That is what moose is displaying. Ohh, hysterical strength. The hysterical strength. Ohh Is that one I see. like like a mom lists a car up off her child that's trapped? Like that kind of thing? That is an example of hysterical strength. Or OK. maybe when a man named Moose grabs someone by the throat and lifts them off the ground. That too could be hysterical strength, so that is what we will be calling this from OK. here on out. I've worked really hard to get no around this one. Moose has snapped and back at the Dunbar no residence the maid tries to warn Hunter about a very scary experience that she had. And Hunter, seemingly forgetting everything that has happened up to this point, tries to comfort her with a good old fashioned dicken. yeah I like when she's like I can't do this. And then he who does he call? Does he call like his therapist? He's like, Nope, tried to **** ****. the mate again. Also, there's a weirdo at my outside my house. Do we know who he was talking No, to when he made that phone no, call? we have no idea who he's talking to. So anyway. Yeah, so the mates not having it and Hunter goes outside. He treats his gardener like an ******* for a few minutes and then he pieces out with his son. But wouldn't you know it, moose is back lurking in the bushes. Also, moose wears nothing but these loud Hawaiian shirts. And yet he's like ******* Michael Myers. He just moves through the shadows. Yeah, and this is, this is John Travolta at his largest too. So this is like a big Hawaiian shirt guy. Yeah, Yeah. with a backpack and like big clunky like new balances. Oh yeah, he's got the dad shoes. He's got big white, new balances. He he was ****** to his gardener and cause that I guess comes into play later. What was? But He. he was just like, you wanna leave early? Fine, **** you leave early or whatever. Like. First no off, the gardener had his headphones in, clearly listening to music. And Mm-hmm. then like hunters just like Fernando, Fernando and he's like, he takes it, he's like ohh sorry, I was listen to music and Hunter goes, you need to listen better. Ohh Like you're that's just right. no being an *******. Yeah, we see that moose's letter is still on the ground where he dropped it the day before, and finally the housekeeper sees it and picks it up to read it, which springs moose into action. Resultingly of mice and men. Moment, yeah. Yeah, so now Moose has a body count. OK, Hmm. so First off, when he's like stop hitting me and you hear all those like punching sound effects, she's hitting him with a handkerchief. So I'm not sure how those striking sounds come. But anyway, then he go off and like double closed fist smashes her in the face. She falls back against like a bird bath and she's she's dead Yeah. and so blood coming out of her nose. And then you heard Moose's It's little a Nosebleed. boogie there. Hmm. So after killing this woman, Moose heads into Hunter's house where he helps himself to some food. He reads a script on the *******. He Brushes smells his the teeth. tooth. Yeah, he smells the toothbrush. And then he uses the toothbrush. And then he watches some home movies until Hunter arrives home. And this is where moose has hysterical stealth. Because he. He hides under no the kids bed and is completely quiet until no Hunter is later on knocked the **** out on sleeping pills and booze and his easy chair. So. Ohh, and not only boos, it's three generic cans that just say IPA IBA. on it. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah. no Ah, yes. So moose, no naturally. You know, fresh off a murder and hiding under a bed. He does what anyone would do, and he takes some selfies with an unconscious hunter, and then he falls asleep in the chair beside him until the next morning when he sneaks out. So Fast forward to the next scene and we get Hunter and his son in the car when this exchange happens. Oh, the best part of the movie? Yeah. If we determine if that's a real biscuit It song or is. if that Yeah, it it is is. OK. That song is called the truth off of the Limp Bizkit album the Unquestionable Truth Part One, AKA the album that doesn't have Wes Borland on it. Ah, perfect. Yeah, alright. Yeah. Did you see who the the songwriting credit was to? No. It says written by Limp Bizkit and Sammy Siegler. ******** legend Sammy Siegler played in Utah today, played in Glass Jaw, played in rival schools and played very briefly in Limp Bizkit. All right. Wow, Yeah. during this era of Limp Bizkit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I once heard him on a podcast say that he got the offer from Fred Durst by saying so you wanna be in the LB? the So then Hunter no sees moose walking down the street and a really lays into him. I won't. You know, basically every time that Hunter and Moose Connect, Hunter just becomes more and more of an *******. It's more of this, like I better never see you in my neighborhood again. Kind Yeah, of ****. meanwhile, that dead housekeeper is just chilling It's in just the backyard. just ******* laying there. yeah Just laying there. And yeah, moose. Moose is losing it. He's just gone to another level. no And like in this scene, Travolta has like snot bubbles, just Dude, dripping. no, dude, this is this is John Travolta after the scene was like, ******* nailed it. He yeah was just you could hear a pin drop on set. Yeah. Everybody was Yeah. just yeah, yeah, that's it, that's it. Alright, everybody rap. ******* nailed it Travolta. John. John, come here. Are you OK? Are you OK? You talk alright? You went, you went to that place, man. You went to that place. John. That was that was a Fred Durst like Ross Robinson make the actor cry in the booth moment. Yes, Yeah. that's exactly. Yeah, so moose. He burns all of hunter **** including the Rico vest. So we know that he's really, you know, there's no coming back now. Hmm. And then we entered the 3rd and final act of this Opus. No, the dead girl is still in the backyard. Oh yeah, meanwhile, made still just dead No as ****. man, no mention of of dead A housemaid. lot of people are paying attention to this backyard. There is a lot of activity there, yeah and now there's just a dead body and nobody said **** the so hard. Cut to Hunter's asleep in bed, slowly coming to, only to discover wadded up tissues stuffed in his mouth no and his arms and legs bound on the floor. no A dead moose. Or so Hunter thinks. Mooses faked his death and then quotes to Saul and then quotes Bill Paxton from aliens. Here's where the torture begins. First, Moose puts on a Jason mask and runs into the room with a knife and starts stabbing Hunter. But it's a prop knife. It's a problem knife, yeah. At this point I couldn't tell what was Yeah, real I was highly and what confused. I thought Like, I was he like, was wait. like. Lightly stabbing anyways. Yeah. Right, but you could tell it was a prop knife, like when they zoomed in on it, but like he acted like he was being stabbed. So it was just horrible to reaction by Fred Garrison. Moose, then inspired by reservoir dogs, leads OK. Hunter to believe that moose is about to set him on fire. Ohh. I watched reservoir dogs today Did you? did didn't age well. No. No. Well. It's it's a tough watch. We'll just say that. Wow. Real tough dialogue. I. Yeah. Reservoir has a hard R. Oh, gotcha. Pretty much every scene in the movie, I think, yeah. Yeah. And then the weirdest thing he starts feeding hunter honey off of his fingers and berating him for not having enough good snacks in the house. Hunter needs to find a way out of this. So he's going to use his God giving acting talent to lure moose into a false sense of security by giving him the one thing he wants the friendship of Hollywood actor Hunter Dunbar. This is a weird scene. About to get weirder. Yeah. So moose loosens their strengths, and Hunter immediately punches moose in the face and blows his hand off with a shotgun. He just pulls but it's like it's not, it's like a rifle yeah but it acts like a shotgun when he Hmm. pulls the sugar and it's hiding behind his head in the night stand like was it behind his pillow where he who sleeps with a rifle in their bed. And yeah we're talking like a great like an M1 like bolt action ******* rifle. Yeah, and like it blows like it blows the fingers cleaned off. Of one of those his hands. Yes, Yes. he's left with just a little nub. With the tables turned, hunter then just starts like firing off like rounds near Moose's head, like blowing out his eardrums, and then he takes like this ******* dagger. Just And. ******* stabs no him in the eye, but like not hard enough to murder him. Like, No. he pulls his step so he doesn't, like, stabs straight into moose's face. He just kind of like pokes his eye out a little bit. Yes. Yeah. A little bit, yeah. Yeah. uh so This act of like profound violence and mooses, pathetic whaling, it brings Hunter back to reality, and he's shaken to the core by his actions. So he wraps up Moose's head. He just sends him on his merry way. It just opens Mm-hmm. the doors like out you go buddy. no So the whole film wraps up with a badly wounded moose just stumbling down Hollywood Blvd. Before being found by Leia. Like, who Yeah, knows just what? randomly. Also we forgot the part where she accosted him earlier because he would. Those pictures that he took with Hunter and Hunter's Hmm. house, he apparently posted on his social media. Ohh So yeah. Leah is like bro, you put this on your social and he's like, well now your *** is blocked. Yeah. Meanwhile, the police finally arrive at hunters and find the housekeeper, and with them is the gardener who Hmm. goes, who just nods knowingly and points and goes. That's him. We don't know where the gardener went when the gardener found this no no body. If he found this body, did he not hear all of the commotion inside? Yeah, the gunshots. Yeah. So Hunter walks out the door covered in moose's blood, and the cops just take him into custody for the murder of the maid, who has very little blood on her body. Yeah. No, and it's like several days old like. Yeah. Yeah. And like ultimate. So ultimately like Moose gets away and Hunter has to pay the price, except that would literally never happen. Like you Right. have DNA, home security cameras, St. Really. cameras or maybe just like the the fact that Moose has to go to the hospital. Right, right. Yeah. Meanwhile, the the real end of the story is that Hunter Dunbar is released, absolved of all crimes and moose ends bludgeoned to death over a pudding cup. I can't does the yeah movie end with the narration of Layla saying like don't worry about moose. Like, he may have lost his hand in his eye, but to him it's just a badge of honor. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then it just goes to black and it goes John Travolta is Is moose. moose. And he's still, meanwhile being like, oh, we're on the Walk of Fame. Ohh, Louise Fletcher has a star here. She's a bad nurse. She was, that was the nurse in a wonderful Yeah. over the cuckoo's nest like. Yep. Yeah. Who, like Google, does not have a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but anyways. Yes. So nobody learns anything of value, it just feels like they like wrapped. No, this was a vehicle for John Travolta to try and win an Oscar and No. instead. Instead. I don't know. I don't know what this was a vehicle for at for anyone involved whatsoever. uh I don't know who wanted what anyone's idea of like well, how would this was gonna be a good movie you know anyways. Well, as a final **** you to the audience, the whole affair is dedicated to Bill Paxton. Do you know why? No. His son played the uh pickpocket. Really. Yes. No way. Tank top Yeah, guy. no, that I'm not the tank top guy. The tank top guy's henchman. Yeah. Really. Yeah. Wow. Damn. This was in the IMDb trivia. So how did this movie do? Well, no yeah the fanatic appeared in 52 theaters over Labor Day weekend. On its opening day, the film grossed a whopping $3152 for a location average of roughly $60.00. In some theaters, it grossed $10 or less. The highest gross was $736.00 at Arena Cinema Lounge in Hollywood. You wanna hear a quote from Devin Sawa about his experience on this film? Yes, I do. All right, this is from inverse.com. Devon Sawa I'm one of the only people in the history of John Travolta that gets to work with this John Travolta. Sowell humblebrags this Travolta stayed no in character the whole time people were supposed to call him moose. Fred talked to him as if he were moose. Sawa says he only ever saw his costar in wardrobe, whereupon he'd sit in his chair and rock back and forth nervously. It was a treat to see a legend in that state and dedication and focus. I found that while Googling how much exactly Devon Sawa was paid for his role in the film and I just Hmm. can't find it. Was it uh more than $3153? I'd imagine. Oh my God. You know, some days you no get to be with Daniel Day Lewis thinking he's Abraham Lincoln the entire day, and some days you get John Travolta ******* his pants and rocking yeah back and forth in a Hawaiian shirt. You know, act acting weird like that. This is a box office and critical bomb on rogerebert.com. The writer Brian Tarisio wrote the Fanatic hates fans. It hates Yes. actors. It hates tourists, shop owners, and servants. It really, really hates autistic people. And it no hates you. It's a movie that thinks you're an idiot. Somehow you won't see through its shallow provocations, illogical behavior, and vile misanthropy. And I don't disagree. This is a hateful piece of cinema. Oh, absolutely. This is I imagine that like, the inspiration is how actors and famous people talk about the people they meet at conventions. Hmm. Yeah, probably, Yeah, yeah. and like, let's be honest, we all know a moose. Yeah, Like. yeah. And he in real life, he wears AT shirt that says tool on it. Yeah. yeah The film was nominated for no three Golden Raspberry Awards for Worst Picture, Worst Director and Worst Actor, which John Travolta won in a dual win for his role also in the film trading paint. So John Travolta How? somehow simultaneously won two Razzies in the same year for worst actor. Oh my God, did you know he actually went on a four year consideration campaign for this? Like to the I Oscars? Holy believe ****. it. Yeah, he had posters made-up like John Travolta no is moose. He actually ran this as a four year consideration. Well, that rules. I'm going to leave you guys with this. So the original title of this film was Moose. And if you read a lot of like the press stuff, it says that this was a real life encounter that Fred had with a fan. no That was like really frightening. And if you go through all that, it's the same story over and over, except in some places. Now, I found a quote from Fred that's talks about his experience and why he wrote this film. And he says there's a guy I met, he's an autograph collector, and he's nothing like the moose in the movie. But he was kind of quirky and different and really obsessive and outrageous. no He was way more aware and clearly not a killer or anything, but I just always thought he was interesting. I took no an interest in him and befriended him. I saw how he operates and how he inspired me to write this character in the movie. I tried to find out more and I came across this raw footage from the YouTube channel the street interviewer no where Fred is signing autographs and I caught this bit. no no So now I know that it's Mike Moose. Guys, I ******* found him. No way. Hmm. I would like you to meet Michael Moutsinas. Oh no. In my research, I found out that Mike is more than just a fan. So Mike has been in the industry no for quite some time. He was on the original 81 Broadway cast of cats. He was a baseball fury in the Warriors. Yeah, he's done a bunch of stuff. Durst and Moose go way back. In 2011, Durst signed his first ever TV deal with CBS and CBS TV studios under the pact no he had partnered with. CBS TV studios on 1/2 hour Comedy Project, which he would star in and produce the untitled comedy, sometimes referred to as ****** *** has received a script commitment. It centers around a rock legend looking for balance between his high profile lifestyle and a family. I've looked for everything I can on ********* and all I found was this one little sizzle reel. So. Jesus Christ. no This is like Fred Durst wishing he was in Californication. Yeah. This is like a curvier enthusiasm no style where it's Fred, but he's interacting with people like Aaron Lewis and Dwight Yoakam and Moose is dead in the middle of it in Hmm. a scene with Fred and Dwight Yoakam, and they even introduce him as no Moose. So Hmm. there he is in the middle of the whole thing, doing what moose does. So then Durst actually has production credits on two of his films, stalkerazzi, of which he was the executive producer in 2013, and Barker Daniels, of which he was the producer in 2015. And if there's any doubt that Moose was the inspiration, here's some photos of him on set with the cast. Whoa. And sure enough. Wow. So it's an exploitation film too? Yeah. Oh, it absolutely is. Apparently Moose no also had a speaking role in this film that was cut when Travolta no is waiting to get his vest signed. Moose was supposed to be one of the people in line who's like, hey, look out. And he was cut. And scanning the credits and everything else tied to this movie, there's not one actual no reference to Michael no Moussas of Moose himself. His name appears nowhere. So while later Moose starts popping up in these random forums, leaving comments on articles, here he is on queerhorrormovies.com on a review called the Fanaticus Empty and Offensive. At the very bottom, there's one comment. Hmm. And it says hello, I'm the real moose. No, not on the spectrum. I wrote this film in 2006 with Fred. He rewrote it now says it's about a real life stalker contacting me. If you want the real story, I'm an actor, filmmaker and gay male. I have been no friends with Fred for 12 years. He cut me out. Michael Moose mozos. Holy ****. So that's one. Yeah. Here he is on Joe Blow. Moose is at the bottom saying greetings, this is Michael Musso's the real moose. No, yeah I'm not on the spectrum. I am an actor, filmmaker. I wrote the original script in 2006 no with Fred. We were friends with 12 years of blah blah blah. It is clearly a stealing with no inspired by or based upon by. I went to Alabama last year. I met John. I had a part in the film. It's now cut out. I don't know why John will play it as on the spectrum. I was a memorabilia collector for 10 years when I met Fred. So. so That is the story of the real moose. Interesting. So one thing that we left out is how often Leah and moose refer to celebrities as the films. Do you either of you, remember what No, term they used? no, I do not. Hmm. Celebutard. Ohh celebutard. Over and over again. Huh. That's Celebutard. cheese. Where to, where to go, where to be a celebutard, Fred? That all kind of brings it together of just this horrible film being, you know, stolen from somebody and then just yeah, no, it is empty and hateful and Yep. did not enjoy. No, no. We're two hours I spent this week. Yeah. Even better than getting polyps ripped out of your Ah nose. yeah, yeah. And I had like a camera with a drill in it up in my noggin. And I I'd do that again rather than watch this ***** ** ****. No, I mean I was, I was gonna make the comment earlier that like when you make a movie you want, you know, you want to at least find some level of identification with the audience. Like Hmm. no you have to have some sort of redeemable quality in whoever your hero is, even if it's an anti hero or something. And there was a screen writing book called Save The Cat, where it's it's like have your character do something noble so that you know the audience will identify with them later in the film. This has no moment with any character whatsoever, the entire film. It's a film of awful people, of The just absolutely. awful, tragic people. Hmm. It's. Yeah, and there's zero Comic Relief. No redeemable characters. Well, I Well, mean, maybe it not not. depends the way if the. you're a horrible person or not, Yeah, you know, that's true. That's and true. what you find funny. So yeah. I don't know. I I think the ending is really did for me where they're like they all got away Scott free moose just went on moose and around. Hmm. Yeah, it's a it's a real ***** ** **** guys. It's a real terrible film. Any partying thoughts before we get on to what you're listening to? No. I just. Kevin Kevin's really on one about Yeah. Fred Durst lately. I don't know if Fred ****** in his Cheerios or what the deal is, but holy ****. I mean, I already did not have a good opinion of Fred Durst, and now it's even worse. I mean, yeah you know, thanks. Yeah, I don't know what it is. It's just I I swear to God, we will leave the Fred Durst train here for a while. But I thought it was definitely important to look at the visionary director that no he is. Well, thank you for that. no Alright, so Morgan, you're our guest on this episode, So what have you been listening to? A friend of mine passed away this week. He was a huge in the San Diego music scene and he used to be in a band called Fluff. His name was O and I don't know, you're friends with everybody. And so fluff have an album on streaming and the song The Ocean is on it. And so I'd recommend that song. All right. That was the ocean by fluff and rest in peace, so. All right, Nick, what you got? Yeah, I can make a music recommendation, but I'll just save it for the next show. I like a lot of people and like pretty infatuated right now with HBO show the Last of Us. Hmm. So it is like based on the video game and it is kind of a zombie show. But for those of you that are not into video games and not into zombie shows, like the overarching theme of the Last of Us is love and relationships and how love changes, different decisions that people make and what people are willing to do for those that they love and because of those that they love. And I think it's like the greatest television I've seen, probably since Breaking Bad, Hmm. but it's uncomparable to that. It's its own thing. I would encourage you to take a spin around and at least get through the 3rd episode. If you watch the third episode and you hate it, go ahead and send me a message, because I would know why, I suppose. Yeah, I I I know exactly the episode There's you're only talking one about. reason, Yeah, well. but yeah, check no it out. And also, it was a pretty sweet video game and it has a killer score, Hmm. but it's just like a Spanish kind of instrumental no acoustic guitar, kind of haunting soundtrack that's pretty sweet. But anyway, go watch the Last of Us. Awesome. My, what I've been listening to lately kind of piggybacks off what you were saying, Nick. So recently on Gamepass they released this video game Far Cry 5. I've never played any of the Far Cry series, but I got into this and it speaks to a lot of the things I'm into, which is mainly killing religious extremists. no yeah oh No, it's it takes place in this beautiful Montana background where this cult called Eden's Gate has taken over the town and they've got this whole doomsday prophecy no and you go on all these missions and stuff. But the cult also has their own music and it slaps. It's so good. So I looked into who did all the scoring and songwriting for this, and it's this guy Dan Romer, who had done the score for. The show maniac, if you remember that, with Jonah Hill and I absolutely loved that score. So they released all of the songs that they had done for Far Cry. I'm going to play for you. The world is gonna end tonight by the Hope County choir off of the video game Far Cry 5. Pretty rad. Yeah, Cool. alright. So Morgan, do you have any huggables? Do you have anything, any parting words, any thoughts here? Printer sucks, I don't know. Yep. Alright. Thank you always for joining us, Nick. Where can they find us? Ah, we are on Instagram at days_of_Nope, that's Nope, not it at that all. is not it. We yeah are on Instagram at days of the new that is daz of the new nu. And you can find me, Nick, on Instagram at Nick_the_knife. You can find me on Instagram at KJ. We no will be back next week with a mosh pit and then I swear to God, we will start doing album reviews again. See you all next week. no Dayz of the nu is a production of the Palm Springs 86. You were there.