- It's once again time to get gutsy with Liz Hall
and her expert guests on the Gutsy Bay Podcast.
- Welcome to the Gutsy Bay Podcast. I'm your host, Liz Hall.
Today I have the pleasure of interviewing a professional,
intuitive, medium, and expert in human design.
Heather Fisher Paige, welcome Heather.
- Thank you. - Early in life,
Heather had profound connections with spirits
and other multidimensional beings.
At the same time, she started experiencing a series
of health crisis that prompted her
to begin combining different healing modalities
and weaving them into her daily practices.
As Heather's spiritual practice
and connection with her guides evolved,
so did her understanding of others from a mind, body,
spirit, and soul purpose perspective.
As an adult, she began integrating a number
of spiritual techniques from nutrition to human design,
energy healing, deep wisdom from her guides
to help clients make major transformations in their lives.
Clients also began approaching her to connect
with their departed loved ones,
but also to clear their homes
and business space of spirits and negative energy.
And her practice grew exponentially.
Heather's natural ability to connect
and crossover trapped spirits
and clear that homes energy have since then helped so many
to bring positivity back to their lives.
She now mentors others to connect with their guides, angels
and spirits, unlocking their true potential and gifts.
She also hosts the Integra Podcast,
bringing her listeners inspiration, wisdom,
and Wellness as she interviews leaders in the fields
of wellness, spiritual guidance, and functional medicine.
Her podcast is available on all major platforms.
Heather, thank you for joining us on the
Gutsy Bay Podcast today.
- Thank you. So nice to be here.
- So today you'll be talking about the human design
listeners, more of what that is
and how you got involved in utilizing it with your clients.
- Sure. Yeah. So human design is a system
that combines astrology, the Hindu chakra system,
which is a nine centered system, Kabbalah, the etching
and quantum physics, to create a personalized chart
that really becomes the blueprint for someone.
It's based on the concept that we all are born with a unique
and specific energetic design that gives us our life path,
who we are here to be.
So when we, uh, live in that alignment with our design,
through our type, our strategy
and authority, which we'll talk a little more
about later, yeah.
We can find more fulfillment in our lives. Wow.
I study human design as well as quantum human design
with Karen Curry Parker.
She's my mentor. And it takes traditional human design
system and shifts the language to a quantum
or higher level of understanding,
still looking at the shadow and the lower expression,
but giving a deeper understanding of potential
and empowerment.
And yeah, so I found it, uh, probably five,
six years ago, uh, when I was kind of struggling.
And I had studied astrology for 25 years at that point.
And when I found human design, it really spoke to me.
I felt like I was finally seen as who I truly am
and was at the time, but truly am.
And so I love bringing the system to people
because it really helps them understand themselves
and feel seen and allowing themselves
to decondition from parts of that
probably society or our parents.
You know, we get conditioning from everyone
and it helps people have those aha moments
and go, oh yeah, this really is how I at a soul level feel.
So I really enjoy utilizing at that as part
of the work that I do.
- That's beautiful. - Thank you.
- So my producer Adam, asked
to have a human design chart, uh, done on me.
- Yeah. - I'm really excited.
- I love, love introducing people to human design.
It's just such a cool system, as I've said.
Um, so just a quick kind of overview.
I wanna, uh, let listeners know if they don't know
about human design.
We're gonna be talking about type strategy
and authority today.
Okay. Um, we might talk a little bit about the incarnation
cross because that is, um, something really, uh,
tucked into our life path and our own specific blueprint.
But we will be talking about type strategy authority first,
because those really are the foundation of human design.
And so I'm gonna take just a moment to kind
of talk about the type strategy authority
before we get into yours, if that's okay.
- Please. Yes. - Okay, great.
So in human design, there are five basic types,
the manifester projector, reflector, the generator,
and the manifesting generator, which is your type.
And we'll talk more about that.
So each type has a strategy for responding to life.
So if we start with a manifester, the manifester is here
to initiate things.
They're kind of the idea person who,
so if we were looking at it from, let's say,
a movie being produced, the manifester is the person
who has the idea for the movie.
They're kind of the producer.
And then we have the projector.
And the projector is the person who waits
for the invitation to lead.
And so they will get these invitations
to show up
and just kind of become part of
that director kind of energy.
The generators, which there are the generator
and the manifesting generator, we're kind of like the crew.
We do lights and set design,
and we kind of get everything going around,
getting the play going.
And we, we go in and we pick what lights us up. Mm-Hmm, .
Then finally, the reflector.
The reflector is about 1% of the population.
Their strategy is to weight a lunar cycle.
Now, as a reflector, they're the audience.
They're taking everything in,
and then they are giving us feedback in a certain way.
Um, but it takes them a little longer for their strategy
to work because of the way that they're built.
So for generators
and manifesting generators,
we are here to respond to things.
We're here to respond to.
What lights us up, do we wanna work on, on the set design?
Sure. Do we wanna do lighting? No.
So it's really kind of a cool, simple way
of looking at, um, how we're built.
And, uh, so, and we'll talk about your authority as well.
So you are a manifesting generator,
and that is the traditional human design name for
in quantum human design, you're called the time bender.
And let me talk a little bit about that as a time bender.
You are great at multitasking.
You can have five things going at once,
and you know, not everything is going to come to fruition.
It's really your time of mastery, of figuring out what works
for you, what doesn't work for you, what you wanna do.
It's that experimentation phase
where you're let you like freight train through it,
and you're like, well, made a mistake.
Gotta take two steps back.
And then you figure out what works.
And so not everything is gonna come through fruition,
but you're gonna find what works best for you.
Does that feel, uh, yeah. Resonate with you?
Does resonate awesome. Yeah.
And you do, you have, it's called time bender
and quantum human design,
because you all are able to get so much done
in a certain amount of time.
The the generator types, the straight generator,
and then the manifesting generator
will be working on things.
And, but the generator is focused on one thing at a time.
You're working on five things at a time, may have something,
um, spinning off your toes, .
And, and, but we're all gonna end up at the same place
because of how our energy works.
Mm-Hmm. , when we are aligned with that energy,
how we're supposed to be, because we are human beings,
not human doings, when we're really connected to
that alignment of who we're supposed to be, um, as our type,
then utilizing that energy is a lot easier.
And so when you are allowed as a manifesting generator
to utilize your energy
and do have five things going at once, that feeds you,
that feeds your energy, that keeps you going.
If you get stifled, um,
because somebody says, no, you're supposed to, you know, uh,
a teacher could tell you as a kid, no, you've got
to work on one thing at a time when you need to be able to
doodle while you're taking notes, you know, whatever it is.
So it's really interesting to be a manifesting generator
because you have that energy
of these amazing ideas coming in and I ways of doing things.
But at the same time, you're that generator.
So you have this really great energy that you can use
that workforce energy I kind of talked about, um,
being part of the crew.
So it's really a nice combination of energies
that you have when it is utilized in alignment.
- Okay. That's beautiful.
- Yeah. So your, your strategy is to respond to things.
So the manifester, the straight manifester,
they are here as initiators.
They initiate things. They will go out and get things going.
They in relationships, they will ask the person out,
even if they're the woman as a manifesting generator,
your energy is more of that responding to things, you know,
responding to those bright shiny
pennies that are coming at you.
And then because you have that manifester energy as part
of your type, you need to inform people
because again, you're doing five things at once,
and if somebody comes in
and interrupts that flow, it can cause you
to have frustration or anger
because they interrupted your flow.
So it's important as a manifesting generator
to when you respond to something, if you are wanting to go,
say, go work out in the garden and you wanna mow
and weed and,
and do the flowers, it's important for you
to inform your partner, your kids,
that you're gonna spend an hour outside
and to give you that pocket of time to have to focus.
And so that you can do, do you best .
That makes, so does that make sense? Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting. Um, I have a manifester daughter,
so a straight, uh, she's just a manifester,
but if her flow gets interrupted, it is the anger
and frustration just pop out and it's just, and it,
because of the way that you all are built, you have a motor
to the throat is what it's called.
It comes straight from the head and out the mouth.
And so, um, a lot of times it can be abrupt
and repelling.
And so utilizing that kind of conscious communication
strategy of informing can be very helpful.
And then you can be more connected to your type
and your strategy because really your type
and strategy are the most important things.
When we are utilizing that energy, it really,
we can flow really well.
Now that doesn't mean that we don't have conditioning
that comes in with all of that.
And that's where getting deeper into
a human design chart, looking at your, uh,
where conditioning can happen in the chart,
looking at people in your family, um,
and your charts together, you can see where
that conditioning may have happened.
And then we can work on deconditioning that so
that you can really connect deeper to
your unique blueprint.
'cause everybody has their own unique blueprint.
It's not, it's not just those five types. Right.
And so also you are a, your authority is called,
um, emotional authority.
So therein as generators, generator types, like
you, I'm a generator, you are a manifesting generator.
We have a sacral response.
It is when we know something is lighting us up, we'll get a,
uh, uhhuh or an Uhuh in our gut.
We'll just feel it. Mm-Hmm.
, you know, you can just kind of feel
that it's almost like you blossom when you have the Yes.
You kind of pull back when you have the no.
And that can help with decision making.
There is a little bit of a caveat here.
When you have emotional authority, you have
to ride out some emotional waves
and you have a, an emotional wave as part
of your decision making, which is your authority.
And so you might be out hanging out with people
and somebody says, Hey, do you wanna help out
and volunteer for this event?
And you're like, yeah, that sounds great.
And you get home and you're like, oh,
I really don't wanna do that.
I don't have the time and I'd rather be out in my garden.
You know, working on the, on the plants and,
and, uh, picking flowers and, and making bouquets
and things like that. .
And so with emotional authority, it, it, you have
to ride the wave of it.
Yeah. And, you know,
'cause you can be on that high when you're out and about
and out in public with people, but when you come home
and you let that energy kind of get off, you know,
other people's energy come off of you Yeah.
Because that's what the quantum field's all about.
You might feel like, oh no, I don't wanna do that now.
So I always, people with, um, generator types
with emotional authority
or splenic authority, I always have them say,
Hey, that sounds great.
Let me get back to you and take some time
to ride the emotional wave and see that it stays a yes.
Because we only wanna respond to,
to the heck yeses in our lives.
Right. Rather than the obligatory
or the, uh, no, I really don't wanna say that. .
So those are important. Those are really important pieces of
who you are and how you can show up in the world
and be who you are here to be.
- Yeah, that makes sense. Person always.
When I'm out and about and I'm Yes.
And I'm like, oh, well then I come home
like, what did I sign up for ?
- Right, right. Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, so when you're aware now that you're aware,
you can, when you're out, you can use that line of, Hey,
that sounds great, but let me get back to you.
I need to check my schedule when I get home.
You know, don't pull out your phone
because, you know, we all know
that we have our phones on our side, you know,
our schedules on our phones.
But, uh, yeah, let, lemme get back to you is, uh,
something that I always advise my, uh, clients
with emotional authority to do because it's important
because again,
we can have conditioning in some open centers in our charts
that, um, may cause us to feel like we have
to prove our self worth, um,
by saying yes to things.
Or, you know, we might, uh, feel like
because we have, you know, an open head, we may, uh,
wanna say yes to everything
because we have all the ideas of how to make that, um,
volunteer opportunity even better.
So it's important for us to take it home and go Yeah.
Do I, you know, check in with ourselves and,
and say, do I have the emotional
and the sacral energy available for that Mm-Hmm. ,
uh, event. So, yeah.
So it's really interesting, uh,
when you look at the chart that way.
So yeah, so type strategy authority is
always the most important.
Alright. And, um,
but, you know, your incarnation comes into play a lot
as well and your incarnation cross.
And I will, I'll send you your
chart so that you can have one.
Oh, thank you. Um, you are the right angle
cross of the sphinx.
And that sounds, that is such a big, uh, you know,
such a big word to say,
but it, what it is about,
there's 192 different incarnation crosses.
- Okay. - And so, you know, so that kind
of pulls us out from that five types
and, you know, then the different kinds of authority.
So we all have a different life path that we're here to be.
Mm-Hmm. . So you gave me your, uh, birth information,
your birthplace time and, uh, date.
Yeah. And it, so it kind of pulls in that astrology type
of information, but when we look at it, we get
the human design chart
and the incarnation cross comes from
the conscious sun and conscious earth,
and then what we call the unconscious
sun and unconscious earth.
So I'm gonna kind of break down
what your life path is all about.
- Okay. - And so your conscious son is about
how you show up in the world,
and yours is in the gate 13.
And it is the gate
in traditional human design is called
the gate of the listener.
In quantum human design, it is called the narrative.
So you are here to use the power of your own
personal narrative to create with intention
and to bring power.
So you're, that's what you're here to do.
You're using your personal narrative, what you've learned
from the, and we're talking from the highest expression of
that of course, you know,
because we could be in a lower expression of it.
Mm-Hmm. . And, um,
but really utilizing your gifts, your experiences
to bring forth a narrative
that is intentional and in alignment.
So that's who you're really here to be.
- Wow. - Yeah. It's pretty cool, isn't it? It's
- Very cool.
And I feel like I'm listening to it
and I'm following that po that path currently.
- That's awesome. See, that's where we want you to
be - .
- Now your, your conscious earth is
what grounds you in that energy.
- Mm-Hmm. . - So, um, so what is going
to ground you in that narrative?
And for you, it is the gate seven.
And the gate seven is the gate of the role
of the self in interaction.
That is what is called in traditional human design.
That's a really a long thing to say the gate of the role
of the self in interaction.
But in quantum human design, it is the gate
of collaboration.
So it's really about you connecting with the power
that comes from influencing, collaborating,
and supporting leadership.
So you provide direction for leadership, you've got
that kind of energy that can help guide people.
So that's what grounds you in the energy of your narrative,
is your ability to collaborate with people on all levels.
- Wow. Yeah. I, I have, I feel that you're right.
I agree with you. 'cause I've experienced that.
- Mm-Hmm. . Yeah. And when you're in alignment,
that's really when things are lighting you up
and you're doing that is really important
because if you think about it, the chief
of staff is often more powerful than the president.
They're the ones who are bringing the ideas together
and unifying people to support the leadership.
- Mm-Hmm. . - So what balances you in that energy
is the gate one, which in human design is the gate
of self expressions.
And in quantum human design is the gate of purpose.
And it is really the ability to know your authentic self
and having a deep connection with your life purpose.
So when we look at the conscious sun on Earth,
which were the gate 13 of narrative, the gate seven
of the listener or collaboration, we are balancing that
with the energy of the gate one,
which is you being in alignment with your authentic self
and who you truly are here to be.
So when you are in alignment, it gives you that energy
to show up with the highest narrative
and collaborate with people on all levels
and unify people together.
And what grounds you in that energy, um, is the gate too,
which is the gate of the keeper of the keys
in traditional human design.
And in quantum human design is called the gate of allowing.
So it's really setting intentions
and moving towards understanding
and connecting with your authentic self, with complete trust
that you are always supported by spirit
or the God of your understanding.
Mm-Hmm. - .
- And that takes you towards that life purpose.
So, you know, if we're putting this all together,
when you are in alignment with your purpose
and you're allowing yourself to trust in that purpose,
you can show up for people with authentic narrative
and this connection with collaboration
and unifying people in a way that supports us all.
- Wow. , you know, - How's that feel?
- It feels good. I,
and I feel
that I'm truly on my path on working in alignment.
Mm-Hmm. . And I'm following my true passions. Mm-Hmm. .
And I feel that energy that I've been going towards of, uh,
this with the gutsy babe even Right?
Mm-Hmm. and, uh, talking about your guts, right.
Your gut feelings. Mm-Hmm. . And
- There you go.
- Being gutsy and following your dreams.
Mm-Hmm. - .
- And it all is an alignment that I am listening to myself
and I'm following through with it.
So yeah. Saying makes sense.
And uhhuh, and I, I do have that extra energy
because when you have that passion,
it drives you even more so. Right.
Uhhuh - . Right? Yeah.
And all types can get lit up by what they wanna do.
It's just a different way of getting lit up
for generator types, you know?
And I love that you call it the Gutsy Bay
because you are a sacral type.
You are connecting to that Yes. No of the gut. Yes, exactly.
And so that is just so lovely.
So that was really kind of a short compacted, uh,
session reading.
If it was the hour
and a half reading, we would look at more information.
But that kind of gives you a taste of what it is
and how to live in alignment with who you truly are.
- Yeah. And it helps our listeners understand
and know what the human design now is all about.
Mm-Hmm. . Yeah. It's fascinating
and it's so helpful on so many levels and in your life.
And also to help communicate
with your partner, with your friends.
Mm-Hmm. your family. And also
to help understand their side .
Mm-Hmm.
- It really is, what I have found is when I've looked deep
into people's charts, is really coming to that place
of compassion about where they are coming from.
Yeah. You know, it's not gonna tell me the exact traumas
that they're, they've had, you know, the chart isn't right.
But it is going to help me have more compassion for
how they are showing up
and maybe how they're not,
they're showing up from their shadow side,
their unhealed side,
or they're showing up in their highest
expression and in alignment.
So, and it's really when raw , who is the
founder and creator of human design, brought this to people.
He was given the download
and told that this was for the children.
The children, um, the, the,
to bring in more conscious parenting of the children with,
you know, higher vibrations.
And it's so true
because you get, you get this understanding
of your children in a different way.
I have a generator daughter,
and she shows up differently than the manifester.
The manifester is the best, has the best one-liners
because they come straight out
of her head and out of her mouth.
And it's hilarious. So it really does give you a deeper
understanding of, uh, yourself, but the people around you.
- And also I think patience.
- Mm-Hmm. - .
- Oh yeah. Yeah. 'cause you know, I didn't find this until
probably 2017 and my kids are now 17 and 21.
And, uh, I really wish I would've known this when they were
younger so that I could explain it
to first the grandparents.
'cause the grandparents are like, be, uh, seen, not heard.
And you've got this kid who is just out, out there
with the words coming out of the mouth
and they're like, woo, what are we doing here?
But also to parent in a, a certain way.
But I really do feel
that it's such a great tool for everyone.
- Yeah. No, I agree.
So I understand that you are a very sought
after psychic medium as well.
Can you tell us more about that?
Tell and maybe share a story of
how you helped the client with this ability?
- Yeah. Um, so this is something that's been
with me since I was a child
and didn't realize a lot of it because of conditioning
and how my parents responded to it when I was young.
And so really waking up to it
and deconditioning, uh, doing a lot of shadow work
and through different techniques, uh, unwinding a lot
of old stuff that held me back from these abilities.
So as I've done that, you know, everything, uh,
became a lot clearer on the other side.
So I host some sessions
that are called Psychic Sunday sessions
and work with people.
But my whole life I have been crossing over spirits
and, um, talking to the other side.
And people would come to me
and ask me to talk to their departed loved ones
and connect in with them.
'cause sometimes for us, it's hard for us to connect
to our loved ones in that way.
You know, there's a filter and a veil.
And so having that ability really feels like one
of the highest services that I can give
to people and share with people.
And so, uh, yeah.
So I've, I've done that for friends
and started with the encouragement of your producer
and others to allow myself to be
of service to others in that way.
Probably one of the most special ones for me was a client
who came, who was raised by her grandmother
and being able to give her
some specific information about their relationship,
what the woman looked like.
Um, you know, sometimes the name will come
through, sometimes they don't.
The thing is they don't always give up everything to you.
They may be off playing shuffleboard ,
but in this moment when I was connecting
with her grandmother, I could see they held hands.
And when I said that to her, she started crying.
'cause that was one of the most special moments
for her with her grandmother.
And she was one of the last people
to hold her grandmother's hand.
Oh. And so having that acknowledgement
that she was there Yeah.
And that her grandmother was giving her the guidance
and support and knowing that they're always there for them.
And it's not just their imagination.
That energy is there and it is forever.
I had another client who was so concerned about
how her grandmother's burial was taken care of.
Her wishes were one way when the family took care
of it, it was a different way.
And the woman held so much guilt around
what somebody else did.
And I was able to assure her that the grandmother was like,
yeah, it was just a body.
She was okay with you. My spirit still lives on. Yeah.
She was okay. And you gave her peace. And I gave her peace.
Yeah. 'cause she had been holding onto that for years. Yeah.
You know, and when you're holding onto that type of energy,
it can hold back you from living, um,
as you are here to authentically live.
Mm-Hmm. . And so being able to clear that for her
and give her that message was so special.
- That's beautiful. I do believe
that we all have a little bit of that,
but people don't sit still enough.
Mm-Hmm. to actually listen and feel it.
- Yeah. Yeah. And you know, we all are very intuitive.
We have these abilities to connect in
with our higher selves, um, with our guides.
Um, we do, we have an internal GPS in a way.
And, um, it, it is taking that time to
get present, get grounded.
Yeah. Connect into our heart space so that we're able
to hear those messages.
And so I, uh, that's what I work with a lot of clients on,
is just kind of getting the,
- The noise out, - The noise out of the way.
Yeah. Yeah. I'm being, I'm being given other words
that I don't know that are the right
for the podcast, but yeah.
Getting the noise. Yeah. getting the BS out of the way.
Yes, exactly. So it really is, um, being able to get that
energy out of the way and live a more aligned
and present life, uh, is really special to me when I am able
to give that gift to someone else and serve them in that
- Way.
That is beautiful. So how can people contact you
and learn more and access your services? Heather,
- I have the Integra podcast, which is on
most major platforms, most major listening platforms.
So you can go listen to something, see if we resonate,
- Which by the way, I have,
and it was real, it was beautiful
and I loved it. So thank you.
- Oh, thank you. I appreciate feedback.
You know, you don't always get to hear it, you know, .
And then, um, I am on Instagram at
Integra Holistic Wellness.
- Okay. - And so that's Instagram
and Facebook at Integra Holistic Wellness.
Also, I have a website, again, it is
www.integraholisticwellness.com.
And on my page, you can find out more about me, see my,
uh, services, you know, there's testimonials.
There are links to my podcast and podcasts I've been on.
If you end up wanting to join a Sacred Sunday session,
you can email me at support@integraholisticwellness.com
and pick a date that is available for that event.
Or we can have a 15 minute discovery session to see
how we can work together.
- That's wonderful. So Integra is I-N-T-E-G-R-A?
- Yes. Uhhuh. Perfect.
Yeah, it's a, a lot of, a lot of letters in there.
I-N-T-E-G-R-A, holistic
H-O-L-I-S-T-I-C wellness do com.
- Well, I thank you from the bottom of my heart, Heather.
It been such an honor
and a such a beautiful experience
with you on here today. So thank you.
- You're so welcome. And thank you so much.
I always love sharing human design
and the other ways that I connect.
- I'm excited to know that I'm a manifesting
generator. - .
Yeah. Yeah.
- Oh, I'm gonna start manifesting and generating more .
- There you go. There you go. That's
awesome. - .
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