1 00:00:00,715 --> 00:00:03,445 - It's once again time to get gutsy with Liz Hall 2 00:00:03,505 --> 00:00:06,445 and her expert guests on the Gutsy Babe Podcast. 3 00:00:07,575 --> 00:00:09,665 - Welcome to this episode of The Gutsy Babe. 4 00:00:09,925 --> 00:00:11,305 I'm your host, Liz Hall. 5 00:00:11,645 --> 00:00:14,425 In today's episode, we're gonna be discussing the business 6 00:00:14,445 --> 00:00:17,465 of spirituality with Tom Jacobs. 7 00:00:18,405 --> 00:00:20,145 Tom Jacobs is founder, director 8 00:00:20,145 --> 00:00:22,985 of Timber Creek Retreat House 80 wooded acres 9 00:00:23,035 --> 00:00:24,305 south of Kansas City. 10 00:00:25,205 --> 00:00:28,745 His mission is to provide sanctuary time to his guests, 11 00:00:29,195 --> 00:00:32,585 along with genuine hospitality, healthy food, 12 00:00:32,855 --> 00:00:37,425 immersion in nature, renewal, rest, yoga, meditation, 13 00:00:38,095 --> 00:00:41,065 mentoring, music, massage therapy, 14 00:00:41,565 --> 00:00:43,665 and a safe, welcoming atmosphere. 15 00:00:44,375 --> 00:00:47,225 Well, Tom, that sounds glorious. Check me in . 16 00:00:48,055 --> 00:00:49,745 - Come on, we are ready for you. 17 00:00:51,045 --> 00:00:52,145 - How did you get started off 18 00:00:52,145 --> 00:00:53,705 with your spiritual path in life? 19 00:00:55,685 --> 00:00:59,345 - The start of it was, uh, part growing up in a Jewish 20 00:01:00,105 --> 00:01:03,985 Catholic home, and I was already getting the invitation 21 00:01:04,045 --> 00:01:05,625 to think outside the boundaries . 22 00:01:06,885 --> 00:01:10,185 And as things went on in time, uh, we advanced forward 23 00:01:10,365 --> 00:01:13,265 and I ended up being a monk and a monastery. 24 00:01:14,385 --> 00:01:18,105 I ended up being a later in a retreat house as one 25 00:01:18,105 --> 00:01:21,925 of the staff members I had personally retreated most 26 00:01:21,925 --> 00:01:24,405 of my life, so was my wife Beth. 27 00:01:25,185 --> 00:01:27,605 And, uh, we joined together in this dream 28 00:01:27,905 --> 00:01:31,005 to create a retreat house for sanctuary time, just 29 00:01:31,005 --> 00:01:33,565 as you said in the introduction for people to come, 30 00:01:33,615 --> 00:01:35,925 especially in nature Mm-Hmm. 31 00:01:36,625 --> 00:01:38,765 and, uh, to treat them with loving kindness 32 00:01:38,905 --> 00:01:40,445 and a lot of hospitality. 33 00:01:42,365 --> 00:01:45,215 - Yeah. I, I truly believe that nature is healing. 34 00:01:46,865 --> 00:01:49,445 - We have a lot of people that are very interested 35 00:01:49,545 --> 00:01:52,365 and in need of that with the pace of life. 36 00:01:52,725 --> 00:01:55,085 'cause everyone is go, go, go. Exactly. 37 00:01:55,085 --> 00:01:56,365 But they don't stop, stop, stop. . 38 00:01:57,105 --> 00:01:58,645 So they burn, burn burned, . 39 00:01:59,685 --> 00:02:00,845 So we wanna replenish 40 00:02:00,845 --> 00:02:03,045 and rejuvenate them so they can go back 41 00:02:03,045 --> 00:02:05,645 to their lives feeling a little more, uh, purpose 42 00:02:05,985 --> 00:02:08,005 and passion behind what they do instead 43 00:02:08,005 --> 00:02:10,685 of just being robotically performing functions. 44 00:02:11,515 --> 00:02:14,045 - Yeah. It's much needed in this world today. 45 00:02:14,625 --> 00:02:17,005 Can you share a story of what motivated you 46 00:02:17,005 --> 00:02:19,165 to open your center at Timber Creek? 47 00:02:19,915 --> 00:02:22,445 - Well, I think most of the motivation was the observation 48 00:02:22,445 --> 00:02:25,365 of people's stress in their lives, the deadlines, 49 00:02:25,705 --> 00:02:30,245 the heavy schedules, and the lackluster, um, uh, interest 50 00:02:30,245 --> 00:02:32,045 because they get so fatigued. 51 00:02:32,855 --> 00:02:36,035 Uh, we also retreated ourselves 52 00:02:36,775 --> 00:02:41,085 and we noticed what it did to us for rebooting our system 53 00:02:41,145 --> 00:02:43,725 and replenishing our mind and our attitude. 54 00:02:43,865 --> 00:02:47,805 Mm-Hmm. . So that became kind of the central observation 55 00:02:48,555 --> 00:02:51,605 that came up with the idea, like, Hmm, 56 00:02:52,135 --> 00:02:54,645 maybe we could create a place that that would be 57 00:02:55,115 --> 00:02:56,365 what we would offer to people. 58 00:02:57,265 --> 00:02:59,045 So that's what we did. Yeah. 59 00:02:59,625 --> 00:03:02,085 - He saw a need to heal. Oh, the need. 60 00:03:02,465 --> 00:03:05,965 - Yep. And - Help people learn to slow down a little. 61 00:03:06,185 --> 00:03:09,405 So it's beautiful to have a retreat like that. 62 00:03:10,425 --> 00:03:14,445 Uh, so I know we're, this is the business of spirituality, 63 00:03:14,585 --> 00:03:16,645 so every organization is blessed 64 00:03:16,645 --> 00:03:18,125 and cursed by growing pains. 65 00:03:18,905 --> 00:03:21,205 Can you share some of the challenges you've overcome 66 00:03:21,225 --> 00:03:22,365 in growing the center? 67 00:03:24,765 --> 00:03:28,055 - Well, yeah. First of all, we've never seen anything as a 68 00:03:28,055 --> 00:03:30,335 curse. - . Yeah, that's good. 69 00:03:30,755 --> 00:03:32,735 - But we certainly see the blessings 70 00:03:32,755 --> 00:03:35,255 and certainly, uh, at least I would say challenges, 71 00:03:35,535 --> 00:03:37,575 I would say blessings and challenges. 72 00:03:38,495 --> 00:03:40,295 I think when you're stepping into the unknown 73 00:03:40,395 --> 00:03:42,335 to create any kind of a business, 74 00:03:42,335 --> 00:03:45,135 whether it be spiritually based or business based. 75 00:03:45,435 --> 00:03:47,415 Mm-Hmm. , you're stepping into an arena 76 00:03:47,415 --> 00:03:48,855 where you do not know the outcomes. 77 00:03:49,675 --> 00:03:52,055 So there's a risk factor that needs to be necessary 78 00:03:52,055 --> 00:03:55,255 that you're, you're willing to step into the unknown. 79 00:03:55,835 --> 00:03:59,015 Mm-Hmm. . And then of course, uh, you gather, uh, 80 00:03:59,015 --> 00:04:01,535 information and you gather people around you 81 00:04:02,045 --> 00:04:06,535 that support the dream, that are visionary, that are 82 00:04:07,605 --> 00:04:09,175 very quick at bouncing back. 83 00:04:09,555 --> 00:04:12,775 And they have a nice balance between being visionary 84 00:04:12,835 --> 00:04:14,455 and also being very practical. 85 00:04:14,685 --> 00:04:16,455 There's like a, there's a statement, 86 00:04:16,535 --> 00:04:20,605 I think it's an Islamic statement that says, trust god, 87 00:04:21,415 --> 00:04:22,795 but tie your camel . 88 00:04:24,295 --> 00:04:27,435 So it's kind of like a blend of trust and practicality. 89 00:04:28,095 --> 00:04:30,715 And it's really the use of both of our brain atmospheres, 90 00:04:30,715 --> 00:04:33,755 the right brain and the left brain to produce 91 00:04:33,935 --> 00:04:37,635 and manifest something that, uh, is not yet there 92 00:04:37,905 --> 00:04:39,155 that can be there. 93 00:04:40,005 --> 00:04:41,975 - Yeah. - For the invisible to the visible 94 00:04:42,155 --> 00:04:43,855 or for the unknown to the known. 95 00:04:44,705 --> 00:04:46,435 Yeah. And so the people that we gather 96 00:04:46,455 --> 00:04:49,915 around us are supportive in that we're actually, uh, 97 00:04:50,055 --> 00:04:53,355 we were partly selective in who we gathered around us. 98 00:04:53,495 --> 00:04:55,835 Mm-Hmm. . And we were partly just receptive to 99 00:04:55,835 --> 00:04:58,475 who spontaneously appeared. Mm-Hmm. 100 00:04:58,985 --> 00:05:01,795 - Yeah. And, - Uh, that really helped us along. 101 00:05:02,185 --> 00:05:07,115 It's not just just a solo, it's not just a solo endeavor. 102 00:05:07,925 --> 00:05:11,055 - Yeah. - We had a woman who came to the retreat house 103 00:05:11,995 --> 00:05:13,015 the first year we opened, 104 00:05:13,275 --> 00:05:15,015 and she's very attentive to energy. 105 00:05:15,805 --> 00:05:17,225 And she walked in the front door 106 00:05:17,365 --> 00:05:18,705 and she went, oh, 107 00:05:20,295 --> 00:05:22,585 this is a house built by love. 108 00:05:23,325 --> 00:05:26,775 You know, and she could feel the energy of all the people 109 00:05:26,775 --> 00:05:27,775 that have poured forth 110 00:05:27,875 --> 00:05:30,615 and continued to pour forth their love 111 00:05:30,835 --> 00:05:34,415 and energy to sustain the retreat house. 112 00:05:34,765 --> 00:05:37,495 It's a nonprofit organization, by the way. Oh, 113 00:05:37,715 --> 00:05:38,715 - That's - Good. 114 00:05:38,715 --> 00:05:39,775 Yeah. 5 0 1 c3. 115 00:05:40,845 --> 00:05:43,745 - That's, that's, that's great to hear. 116 00:05:43,925 --> 00:05:47,785 So, um, because of that, do you get, um, additional people 117 00:05:47,815 --> 00:05:50,105 that, you know, care for the nonprofits 118 00:05:50,335 --> 00:05:51,585 that come in to support you 119 00:05:53,405 --> 00:05:54,405 - All? 120 00:05:54,405 --> 00:05:54,945 So all types. Yeah. 121 00:05:54,945 --> 00:05:56,865 Some, some people are part of nonprofits 122 00:05:56,865 --> 00:06:00,325 and most people that come here are involved in in profit 123 00:06:00,625 --> 00:06:03,205 for profit business very busy lives. 124 00:06:03,615 --> 00:06:05,925 - Right, right. - A lot of mothers Mm-Hmm. 125 00:06:06,305 --> 00:06:08,005 and, uh, who are both mothering 126 00:06:08,065 --> 00:06:10,125 and doing a profession at the same time. 127 00:06:11,395 --> 00:06:13,695 Um, but all walks of life. 128 00:06:13,895 --> 00:06:16,415 A lot of counselors, uh, some people 129 00:06:16,435 --> 00:06:19,255 who have relationship issues come here, people 130 00:06:19,255 --> 00:06:21,055 who are celebrating an anniversary 131 00:06:21,235 --> 00:06:23,735 or maybe they're mourning the loss of a loved one, 132 00:06:24,275 --> 00:06:28,085 or maybe they're going through a job change different stages 133 00:06:28,185 --> 00:06:29,325 and seasons of their lives, 134 00:06:29,325 --> 00:06:31,965 and they're trying to, well, we, we help them 135 00:06:31,965 --> 00:06:34,765 with the transitions of their lives. 136 00:06:36,035 --> 00:06:37,525 Beautiful. So, lots of variety. 137 00:06:38,985 --> 00:06:40,765 - How long do people typically stay? 138 00:06:43,145 --> 00:06:45,025 - Actually, just a weekend - Is, oh, 139 00:06:45,025 --> 00:06:46,025 - They come in on a Friday 140 00:06:46,025 --> 00:06:47,465 around three or four in the afternoon. 141 00:06:47,465 --> 00:06:49,305 They leave Sunday at 11 in the morning. 142 00:06:50,465 --> 00:06:53,885 We offer them meals and meditations and massages 143 00:06:54,225 --> 00:06:56,205 and 80 acres of walking trails. 144 00:06:56,705 --> 00:06:57,725 - Wow. - They could sit 145 00:06:57,745 --> 00:07:01,725 and read, rest, write journal, maybe nap , 146 00:07:02,285 --> 00:07:04,085 because there is a lot of sleep deprivation. 147 00:07:04,475 --> 00:07:06,365 Yeah. Food is very healthy. 148 00:07:06,945 --> 00:07:10,045 The meditations are meant to be a, a blend of a message 149 00:07:10,625 --> 00:07:13,285 and some meditation time and some music. 150 00:07:13,665 --> 00:07:15,565 Mm-Hmm. , uh, the walking trails, of course, 151 00:07:15,585 --> 00:07:16,885 is the exposure to nature. 152 00:07:17,705 --> 00:07:21,445 And we enjoy telling them on the first night something 153 00:07:21,445 --> 00:07:23,405 that people hardly ever say to anybody. 154 00:07:24,265 --> 00:07:27,805 You don't have to accomplish anything while you're here. 155 00:07:29,775 --> 00:07:33,975 Rest reboot. Just be in the now. 156 00:07:35,045 --> 00:07:37,465 - Oh, I love that. I love that. 157 00:07:37,965 --> 00:07:40,545 It, I honestly sounds like I need to check in 158 00:07:40,545 --> 00:07:41,745 and I'm not just saying that . 159 00:07:42,615 --> 00:07:44,105 - Well, we would love to have you. Of course. 160 00:07:44,105 --> 00:07:45,105 You know, you know, we would 161 00:07:45,755 --> 00:07:46,755 - Thank you. 162 00:07:46,755 --> 00:07:50,205 Tom, what advice can you offer to spiritual entrepreneurs 163 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,845 who want to create their own center or movement? 164 00:07:55,435 --> 00:07:57,805 - Well, a little repeat of what I said a moment ago. 165 00:07:58,405 --> 00:08:02,325 I think you, um, anyone would have great benefit in, 166 00:08:04,135 --> 00:08:05,545 well, again, the vision 167 00:08:06,625 --> 00:08:08,725 and the practicality to carry it out, 168 00:08:09,795 --> 00:08:14,295 but undergirding that is a very protected passion 169 00:08:15,575 --> 00:08:20,245 so that nothing is waning your dream, uh, 170 00:08:20,305 --> 00:08:22,085 to make it lackluster or less. 171 00:08:22,195 --> 00:08:25,285 Because if you're, if you're motivated with passion, 172 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:29,895 there's a great deal of surge, uh, momentum moving forward. 173 00:08:31,445 --> 00:08:33,865 So I would say be passionate primarily. 174 00:08:34,965 --> 00:08:37,585 - Yes, I agree. - And express that passion 175 00:08:37,805 --> 00:08:40,385 to the other people that you wanna share the dream with. 176 00:08:41,085 --> 00:08:44,205 So they become not only in tune with your passion, 177 00:08:44,305 --> 00:08:46,645 but it becomes a ripple effect onto them. 178 00:08:47,065 --> 00:08:48,065 Mm-Hmm. - . 179 00:08:48,645 --> 00:08:53,265 - Um, there's also kind of a, I guess this is a statement 180 00:08:53,265 --> 00:08:55,985 that my mom came up with up with, at least 181 00:08:55,985 --> 00:08:58,625 that's the first person I heard stated, which was, 182 00:08:58,675 --> 00:09:00,825 everything happens in divine time. 183 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:06,905 - Yeah. - So, you know, we worked on manifesting the stream 184 00:09:06,905 --> 00:09:08,425 for this is over many years. 185 00:09:09,615 --> 00:09:12,115 It wasn't snap the finger and here we're done, 186 00:09:13,215 --> 00:09:15,115 but we had a lot of money to raise. 187 00:09:15,175 --> 00:09:17,155 We had a lot of architecture to create. 188 00:09:17,215 --> 00:09:18,795 We had a lot of people to gather. 189 00:09:19,415 --> 00:09:22,755 We had land to find, you know, per find a place to have it. 190 00:09:23,025 --> 00:09:26,195 Yeah. And, um, there were lots of stages that went along. 191 00:09:26,335 --> 00:09:28,715 So it wa wasn't instantaneous. No. 192 00:09:28,815 --> 00:09:30,875 And if something became a challenge, 193 00:09:31,105 --> 00:09:35,315 like it didn't match the timing that we had expected Yeah. 194 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:38,875 We would default to, well, it just wasn't divine time. 195 00:09:39,695 --> 00:09:42,715 So rather than resist that, we just said, 196 00:09:42,845 --> 00:09:44,155 let's keep moving forward 197 00:09:45,105 --> 00:09:48,325 and not get stuck by this temporary pause, 198 00:09:48,835 --> 00:09:51,245 because there's always a purpose for the pause. 199 00:09:52,585 --> 00:09:54,835 - Yeah. No, I love that. And you're absolutely correct. 200 00:09:55,215 --> 00:09:57,595 It is all about divine timing in life. 201 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:03,315 And I do believe that it does start in creating it, 202 00:10:03,335 --> 00:10:04,635 the manifesting Right. 203 00:10:04,775 --> 00:10:06,475 And then following through 204 00:10:07,135 --> 00:10:09,875 and making progress every step of the way. Yep. 205 00:10:10,335 --> 00:10:12,995 - Um, - So I have a business 206 00:10:13,245 --> 00:10:16,555 where I created a supplement to help, to help 207 00:10:16,705 --> 00:10:19,555 with vacation constipation, as I like to say, . 208 00:10:19,975 --> 00:10:21,355 - Oh. Oh, that's a great line. . 209 00:10:22,425 --> 00:10:25,075 That is true for many people, myself included. Yeah. 210 00:10:25,305 --> 00:10:26,675 - Yeah. It's a, it's a real issue 211 00:10:26,675 --> 00:10:27,995 and it's a number of things. 212 00:10:28,125 --> 00:10:31,875 Right. Stress, um, eating different time zones. 213 00:10:32,145 --> 00:10:34,035 Just a, a, a variety of dehydration. 214 00:10:34,495 --> 00:10:36,315 And it's an all natural, safe product. 215 00:10:37,095 --> 00:10:39,475 And I had it in my mind for years. Right. 216 00:10:39,635 --> 00:10:40,755 I was manifesting it 217 00:10:40,775 --> 00:10:43,395 and I finally, you know, what started creating it 218 00:10:43,395 --> 00:10:44,395 and making it in my kitchen. 219 00:10:44,535 --> 00:10:47,635 And then it came to a point where like, oh, I need 220 00:10:47,635 --> 00:10:50,475 to get it doctor approved, third party certified. 221 00:10:50,735 --> 00:10:52,235 And, and now finally, 222 00:10:52,755 --> 00:10:55,235 I just recently got it into walmart.com, 223 00:10:55,735 --> 00:10:57,915 - So, oh, congratulations. Thank 224 00:10:57,915 --> 00:10:58,915 - You. 225 00:10:58,915 --> 00:11:01,315 So it's really exciting. That's a lot. It's, and I, 226 00:11:01,395 --> 00:11:03,275 - I mean, you've only shared a few sentences about the 227 00:11:03,275 --> 00:11:05,035 process, but they take, it takes months 228 00:11:05,055 --> 00:11:06,475 and years, right? Yes, 229 00:11:06,905 --> 00:11:07,905 - Exactly. 230 00:11:07,935 --> 00:11:11,475 And, and do I wish that I was even further along? Yes. 231 00:11:11,535 --> 00:11:13,595 But it's a divine timing. Right. 232 00:11:13,655 --> 00:11:17,035 And I just am going at my pace in when it's 233 00:11:17,195 --> 00:11:18,315 supposed to be. It's supposed to be. 234 00:11:18,745 --> 00:11:22,255 - Yeah. Well, it's manifesting all along the way. Yes. 235 00:11:22,255 --> 00:11:24,015 Congratulations. That's really something. 236 00:11:24,075 --> 00:11:28,835 And, and to get into Walmart, is that a new store? No, I'm 237 00:11:28,835 --> 00:11:29,835 kidding. - . 238 00:11:31,105 --> 00:11:34,115 Yeah. I have some friends that are joking like Walmart. 239 00:11:34,265 --> 00:11:36,675 I've never heard of this place. . Yeah. Right, right. 240 00:11:38,305 --> 00:11:39,435 - Well, that's great. 241 00:11:39,635 --> 00:11:40,835 I may have to touch base 242 00:11:40,835 --> 00:11:42,995 with you on the information about your product. 243 00:11:43,855 --> 00:11:45,395 - Oh, please do. Thank you. 244 00:11:45,535 --> 00:11:48,555 And I'm definitely gonna be reaching out to you for, uh, 245 00:11:49,105 --> 00:11:52,795 resting and resetting as as I know I need. 246 00:11:53,755 --> 00:11:57,805 - Well, don't we all - . It is often said, 247 00:11:57,825 --> 00:12:00,445 the way you start your day is the way you experience it. 248 00:12:01,235 --> 00:12:02,845 What are your morning rituals 249 00:12:02,845 --> 00:12:04,525 that keep you on track and present? 250 00:12:06,375 --> 00:12:10,595 - Oh, thank you. Uh, I do have a morning ritual that 251 00:12:11,405 --> 00:12:13,955 tries to extend even beyond into the day, . 252 00:12:15,135 --> 00:12:17,955 - Oh, please share. - But I'm, you know, I have taught yoga 253 00:12:18,135 --> 00:12:19,875 for many years, but I practice yoga, 254 00:12:19,975 --> 00:12:21,755 and then I also have taught meditation, 255 00:12:21,815 --> 00:12:23,195 and of course I practice it. 256 00:12:23,195 --> 00:12:24,955 Imagine that I practice what I teach . 257 00:12:25,725 --> 00:12:29,715 Isn't that a concept? . Uh, so I have that, I have, uh, 258 00:12:29,715 --> 00:12:31,715 the value of some solitude time. 259 00:12:32,115 --> 00:12:35,315 I also have the value of exercising. I, I'm a jogger. 260 00:12:36,175 --> 00:12:37,575 I like to get some cardio going. 261 00:12:38,515 --> 00:12:41,815 Uh, I also create, I, I call all of these practices. 262 00:12:41,815 --> 00:12:42,855 Mm-Hmm. . Those are some 263 00:12:42,855 --> 00:12:44,455 of the things I do at the beginning of the day. 264 00:12:45,085 --> 00:12:49,385 But even creating some social time with friends is practice. 265 00:12:50,345 --> 00:12:52,385 I heard it said once you can start your day 266 00:12:52,385 --> 00:12:53,465 over at any time, . 267 00:12:55,095 --> 00:12:56,715 So things are not correct, you know, 268 00:12:56,715 --> 00:12:59,675 going the way you expected, you can start over, 269 00:12:59,905 --> 00:13:01,435 even if it's two in the afternoon. 270 00:13:02,275 --> 00:13:04,975 And that's a practice too that extends beyond the morning. 271 00:13:05,395 --> 00:13:08,575 Mm-Hmm. . And, uh, the fees are times, 272 00:13:08,955 --> 00:13:12,575 the earlier morning times are times to tune in to, 273 00:13:12,575 --> 00:13:14,815 as I mentioned a moment ago, my purpose. 274 00:13:16,345 --> 00:13:20,125 Why am I here? What are some of the goals of my day? 275 00:13:20,865 --> 00:13:23,845 If I have 10 goals and I only reach three mm-Hmm. 276 00:13:23,945 --> 00:13:25,645 , that's back to our divine timing. 277 00:13:26,345 --> 00:13:30,165 And also the pace of our body and the pace of our emotions, 278 00:13:30,675 --> 00:13:34,405 because we fluctuate from high motivation to not 279 00:13:34,405 --> 00:13:37,925 so motivated, like a sunny day and a cloudy day. 280 00:13:38,825 --> 00:13:40,445 I'm real clear about my mission. 281 00:13:40,945 --> 00:13:45,045 I'm very cloudy about my mission and to honor the span 282 00:13:45,105 --> 00:13:48,525 and the spectrum of our humanity as we go along the day. 283 00:13:48,525 --> 00:13:49,885 That's part of my practice there. 284 00:13:51,195 --> 00:13:53,615 So those help me move along. 285 00:13:54,555 --> 00:13:57,805 - Yeah. I like how you said you could start your day over 286 00:13:58,155 --> 00:14:00,005 even halfway at 2:00 PM Right. 287 00:14:00,005 --> 00:14:01,405 Like a fresh start. 288 00:14:01,725 --> 00:14:04,885 I like to go for a walk in the afternoon around two o'clock 289 00:14:05,065 --> 00:14:06,605 to refresh 290 00:14:07,385 --> 00:14:10,645 and get going again with getting back on track of things 291 00:14:10,645 --> 00:14:12,125 that I need to accomplish for the day. 292 00:14:12,665 --> 00:14:14,525 Um, but that to me is important. 293 00:14:14,685 --> 00:14:16,725 I do tend to notice that I'm like it, 294 00:14:16,825 --> 00:14:18,645 and it's not even, it's just a natural routine. 295 00:14:18,705 --> 00:14:20,445 I'm like, oh, I feel like going for my walk now. 296 00:14:20,445 --> 00:14:24,405 And it's around that time , or my body needs it. 297 00:14:25,075 --> 00:14:28,125 - Sure. Mm-Hmm. , it's kind of like a back to your, um, 298 00:14:28,895 --> 00:14:30,345 your product on vacation. 299 00:14:30,465 --> 00:14:34,225 Constipation. Yeah. , you know, we have energy constipation. 300 00:14:34,845 --> 00:14:37,465 - Oh - Yes. And nature is a reboot for that. 301 00:14:37,575 --> 00:14:39,065 Like your walk. Yep. 302 00:14:39,285 --> 00:14:42,305 And you know, who whatever reboot we can create 303 00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:46,415 will clear the part that gets stuck, 304 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:52,085 or clocked so that we can move forward with flow, you know, 305 00:14:52,385 --> 00:14:54,245 - Guests move and flow. 306 00:14:54,955 --> 00:14:56,765 - Yeah, - Definitely. 307 00:14:57,785 --> 00:14:59,465 - I love your questions. Ask me anything. 308 00:15:00,125 --> 00:15:01,545 - Oh, you're so kind. 309 00:15:02,695 --> 00:15:05,065 Well, how can people learn more about Timber Creek? 310 00:15:07,285 --> 00:15:09,655 - Well, I mean, we have done a lot by word of mouth, 311 00:15:09,655 --> 00:15:10,695 but we have a webpage 312 00:15:10,715 --> 00:15:13,895 and it's just simply Timber Creek retreat. 313 00:15:13,955 --> 00:15:18,625 Mm-Hmm. dot org org because we're a nonprofit. Yeah. Yeah. 314 00:15:18,765 --> 00:15:20,985 Uh, that's probably the best way to get a taste of 315 00:15:20,985 --> 00:15:22,305 what we're doing, especially if they wanna, 316 00:15:22,365 --> 00:15:24,345 if they're not anywhere near the Kansas City area. 317 00:15:24,685 --> 00:15:26,265 We have guests though, that come from all over, 318 00:15:26,415 --> 00:15:27,825 including California. 319 00:15:28,295 --> 00:15:30,425 Yeah, I know you're from there. Yeah. 320 00:15:30,645 --> 00:15:32,625 So, uh, we're not just Kansas City area. 321 00:15:32,715 --> 00:15:34,865 We're, we're not in the city of Kansas City. 322 00:15:35,035 --> 00:15:37,665 We're about 40 minutes south. Okay. 323 00:15:37,725 --> 00:15:39,985 On purpose to be in the country. Mm-Hmm. 324 00:15:40,165 --> 00:15:43,505 and away from industrialization and activity on purpose. 325 00:15:43,885 --> 00:15:46,265 Mm-Hmm. . But the webpage is the best way. 326 00:15:46,425 --> 00:15:48,945 I have an an email address if they wanna reach out 327 00:15:48,945 --> 00:15:51,545 to me personally, which is also Timber Creek 328 00:15:51,775 --> 00:15:53,565 retreat at gmail 329 00:15:54,345 --> 00:15:55,345 - Com. , 330 00:15:55,685 --> 00:15:56,885 I actually went to your website 331 00:15:56,905 --> 00:15:59,045 and I did take a look at your retreat, 332 00:15:59,105 --> 00:16:02,645 and it does look absolutely beautiful and peaceful 333 00:16:02,645 --> 00:16:06,205 and tranquil and everything that you say 334 00:16:06,955 --> 00:16:09,925 that it is, it looks like it really is. So, um, 335 00:16:09,955 --> 00:16:10,955 - Yeah. 336 00:16:10,955 --> 00:16:13,525 We're, we're that . I, we always love it when people come 337 00:16:13,525 --> 00:16:15,325 and they have seen the pictures on the website, 338 00:16:15,425 --> 00:16:17,725 and then they come here and they say, oh, 339 00:16:17,825 --> 00:16:19,925 the pictures on the website don't do it Justice . 340 00:16:20,965 --> 00:16:21,965 And I'm always grateful for that 341 00:16:21,965 --> 00:16:24,005 because if you flip that around, 342 00:16:24,835 --> 00:16:27,125 they say the pictures on the website were really good. 343 00:16:27,125 --> 00:16:29,045 But now that I'm here, this is not so nice. 344 00:16:29,315 --> 00:16:30,605 Yeah. it would not be good. . 345 00:16:31,515 --> 00:16:34,365 - Yeah. Yeah. - So Yes. Wanting 346 00:16:34,385 --> 00:16:35,925 - To be even more impressed in person, 347 00:16:36,065 --> 00:16:37,685 and it sounds like they definitely are. 348 00:16:38,315 --> 00:16:40,525 - Yeah. Well, we would of course, love to have you 349 00:16:40,525 --> 00:16:42,805 and, uh, you'll, you'll move 350 00:16:42,805 --> 00:16:44,765 that also in your own divine time. 351 00:16:45,715 --> 00:16:47,015 You'll know, you'll know when 352 00:16:47,645 --> 00:16:48,645 - Yeah. 353 00:16:48,645 --> 00:16:51,775 That is true. People need to stop 354 00:16:51,995 --> 00:16:55,415 and actually listen to their inner self more instead 355 00:16:55,415 --> 00:16:56,615 of all the outside noise. 356 00:16:58,035 --> 00:16:59,485 - There's a lot of outside noise. 357 00:17:00,155 --> 00:17:01,845 There's a lot of inside noise too. 358 00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:03,925 - Yes. Yes. , 359 00:17:04,715 --> 00:17:06,605 - It's probably about, uh, picking out 360 00:17:06,675 --> 00:17:09,125 what voice you really need to listen to 361 00:17:09,225 --> 00:17:11,565 and what voices are just a bunch of chitchat. 362 00:17:12,105 --> 00:17:14,205 - Yep. I - Got energy drainers, you know. 363 00:17:15,245 --> 00:17:18,015 - Yeah. Energy drainers. Energy drainers. 364 00:17:19,985 --> 00:17:23,235 Well, Tom, would there be anything 365 00:17:23,235 --> 00:17:24,675 that you'd like to share with us? 366 00:17:26,115 --> 00:17:29,415 - Mostly gratitude for you and doing what you're doing. 367 00:17:30,035 --> 00:17:31,215 Uh, it's very beautiful 368 00:17:31,515 --> 00:17:34,375 and, uh, you are, uh, wonderful to talk to. 369 00:17:34,445 --> 00:17:37,295 Very easy to talk to. You need to know that. 370 00:17:38,295 --> 00:17:41,345 Very approachable. And other than that, uh, 371 00:17:41,965 --> 00:17:43,345 we welcome anyone who's interested 372 00:17:43,405 --> 00:17:46,105 to check out the website, they can inquire. 373 00:17:46,555 --> 00:17:48,905 We'll be happy to accommodate them in 374 00:17:48,905 --> 00:17:51,485 and how they need to, uh, reboot their lives. 375 00:17:53,445 --> 00:17:54,975 - Well, I appreciate you, Tom. 376 00:17:55,835 --> 00:18:00,135 So that is Timber Creek Resort House in Kansas City. 377 00:18:01,575 --> 00:18:03,875 Please, please feel free to check it out online 378 00:18:04,575 --> 00:18:06,795 and check in to reboot 379 00:18:08,875 --> 00:18:09,875 - Reboot. 380 00:18:09,875 --> 00:18:10,395 We have a lot of our words. 381 00:18:10,715 --> 00:18:13,875 Reboot, rejuvenate, renew, refresh, 382 00:18:14,935 --> 00:18:16,595 and Return to life. 383 00:18:18,825 --> 00:18:22,385 - I love that. - Now, uh, thi Not Hanh has a statement 384 00:18:22,385 --> 00:18:25,385 that we resonated with early on that said, 385 00:18:26,435 --> 00:18:29,505 retreating is not meant to be an escape from the world 386 00:18:29,645 --> 00:18:30,785 of responsibilities. 387 00:18:31,405 --> 00:18:32,585 Social endeavors 388 00:18:32,685 --> 00:18:36,585 and family retreating is meant to better equip you 389 00:18:37,005 --> 00:18:40,905 to reenter the world for those purposes. 390 00:18:41,085 --> 00:18:43,665 Mm-Hmm. . And we love that. It's practical spirituality. 391 00:18:44,375 --> 00:18:45,375 Yeah. 392 00:18:45,985 --> 00:18:50,005 - That's wonderful. Well, I believe that's it 393 00:18:50,005 --> 00:18:52,565 for this episode of The Gutsy Babe with Lebanese. 394 00:18:52,785 --> 00:18:55,685 I'm Liz Hall wishing you gutsy experiences 395 00:18:55,685 --> 00:18:57,925 that leaves you breathless with excitement. 396 00:18:58,675 --> 00:19:00,345 - Thank you, Liz. 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