1 00:00:00,855 --> 00:00:04,845 - Hello, and welcome to another episode 2 00:00:04,845 --> 00:00:06,925 of the Ayuvedic Therapist podcast. 3 00:00:08,645 --> 00:00:13,005 I am walking on the beach in palate in no Sora 4 00:00:13,055 --> 00:00:14,205 Costa Rica, where I live. 5 00:00:14,865 --> 00:00:16,685 And this is my favorite beach to walk. 6 00:00:18,065 --> 00:00:19,685 Um, and I do it every single day. 7 00:00:20,945 --> 00:00:23,725 You can probably hear the ocean and the birds. 8 00:00:23,845 --> 00:00:26,005 I apologize if the sun's not good, 9 00:00:27,815 --> 00:00:30,275 but I am receiving some downloads 10 00:00:30,275 --> 00:00:32,555 and I just wanted to record. 11 00:00:34,295 --> 00:00:38,295 So I leave this land in about three days, 12 00:00:39,595 --> 00:00:44,045 and I find myself 13 00:00:44,055 --> 00:00:45,925 incredibly blessed 14 00:00:46,225 --> 00:00:51,165 and grateful that I could be here 15 00:00:51,505 --> 00:00:53,885 and learn from this land 16 00:00:55,425 --> 00:00:57,885 and learn from all the elements that live here. 17 00:00:59,985 --> 00:01:02,285 One of the things that I have come to 18 00:01:03,325 --> 00:01:07,815 recognize while living here is the importance 19 00:01:08,035 --> 00:01:10,015 of the Ayurvedic practices 20 00:01:12,035 --> 00:01:16,055 and them being the antidote to trauma. 21 00:01:17,395 --> 00:01:19,695 Trauma with a small T is something 22 00:01:19,695 --> 00:01:21,335 that we have all experienced. 23 00:01:23,725 --> 00:01:26,855 Some of you might not agree with me that you have trauma. 24 00:01:26,995 --> 00:01:31,295 You might say, oh, you know, I'm fine, I'm good. 25 00:01:31,485 --> 00:01:34,055 I've never had anything horrible happen to me in my life. 26 00:01:36,235 --> 00:01:40,975 And I just want you to recognize that 27 00:01:42,845 --> 00:01:46,055 when we are children, especially in the first seven 28 00:01:46,195 --> 00:01:47,455 or eight years of our life, 29 00:01:48,675 --> 00:01:52,935 and we, um, We are 30 00:01:52,935 --> 00:01:57,575 so potent and we are our, our brain is in a different 31 00:01:58,225 --> 00:02:00,815 state, and we are like sponges. 32 00:02:00,835 --> 00:02:01,975 We take everything in. 33 00:02:06,995 --> 00:02:10,925 This is so beautiful. Um, I hope 34 00:02:10,925 --> 00:02:13,005 that you can come here one day with me. 35 00:02:14,025 --> 00:02:15,765 It takes my breath away every time. 36 00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:21,685 But when we are children, let's say you're at school 37 00:02:21,945 --> 00:02:23,405 and your parents are supposed 38 00:02:23,405 --> 00:02:26,805 to pick you up at a certain hour and they're running late 39 00:02:27,585 --> 00:02:29,445 and all the other children are being picked up 40 00:02:29,445 --> 00:02:33,285 and you're sitting there at a 4-year-old, 5-year-old, 41 00:02:33,425 --> 00:02:37,645 6-year-old, and mom and dad are late, 42 00:02:38,905 --> 00:02:41,285 and, uh, everyone else is being picked up. 43 00:02:41,305 --> 00:02:42,965 And you go to the teacher and you say, 44 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:45,665 are my parents coming? 45 00:02:45,885 --> 00:02:47,185 And the teacher says, oh yeah, 46 00:02:47,205 --> 00:02:48,545 I'm sure they're just running a bit late. 47 00:02:49,245 --> 00:02:50,585 Trauma right there. 48 00:02:51,665 --> 00:02:54,905 A child with that brain capacity 49 00:02:55,445 --> 00:02:59,105 cannot comprehend why my mom and dad are late. 50 00:03:00,185 --> 00:03:04,205 And so that turns into an imprint of trauma, 51 00:03:04,335 --> 00:03:07,245 which in Iveta we call some scars. 52 00:03:08,065 --> 00:03:10,725 So there are all these little experiences, so you see 53 00:03:10,745 --> 00:03:12,925 how they can kind of pile up 54 00:03:14,785 --> 00:03:18,685 and they can stay in our state of subconscious 55 00:03:19,905 --> 00:03:23,845 and turn into bigger things 56 00:03:23,845 --> 00:03:24,925 later on in life. 57 00:03:25,265 --> 00:03:27,165 And this is important not 58 00:03:27,165 --> 00:03:28,925 because we're like, oh my God, 59 00:03:29,045 --> 00:03:31,865 I have all these trauma now how do I live? 60 00:03:33,985 --> 00:03:36,965 Um, it's not something that we look at 61 00:03:37,025 --> 00:03:39,245 and we as a negative thing, 62 00:03:40,075 --> 00:03:43,485 however, I can promise you 63 00:03:43,955 --> 00:03:46,885 that these patterns are already running the show 64 00:03:46,905 --> 00:03:51,545 of your life because only 95% of your brain, 65 00:03:52,725 --> 00:03:57,625 or only 5%, is actively working in a conscious mind. 66 00:03:58,125 --> 00:04:01,425 And 95% is in the subconscious 67 00:04:01,645 --> 00:04:04,085 and, uh, running the show. 68 00:04:04,385 --> 00:04:08,845 And so these are the small patterns that 69 00:04:09,365 --> 00:04:10,805 behaviorally run our lives. 70 00:04:12,275 --> 00:04:16,495 So we feel abandoned by the parent 71 00:04:16,595 --> 00:04:17,615 who was running late, 72 00:04:17,765 --> 00:04:19,815 even though they didn't mean to abandon us. 73 00:04:20,715 --> 00:04:23,455 And it wasn't really an, an abandonment, 74 00:04:24,885 --> 00:04:27,745 but the child feels that and it stays with them. 75 00:04:28,485 --> 00:04:32,545 And so later on in an adulthood, in our mostly 76 00:04:33,065 --> 00:04:34,105 intimate relationships, 77 00:04:34,945 --> 00:04:37,355 when our partner maybe is running late 78 00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:40,555 or he's not replying back to our text messages, 79 00:04:41,335 --> 00:04:43,555 we imagine the worst case scenario. 80 00:04:44,845 --> 00:04:48,025 We feel abandoned. And so that abandonment 81 00:04:48,675 --> 00:04:51,665 comes from the source of the childhood abandonment 82 00:04:51,735 --> 00:04:52,745 that we felt. 83 00:04:53,555 --> 00:04:56,205 Because what we feel as children is so potent 84 00:04:56,265 --> 00:05:01,125 and big that if it's not processed properly, 85 00:05:02,375 --> 00:05:04,915 it will just become much bigger now. 86 00:05:06,995 --> 00:05:08,095 So there are ways to work 87 00:05:08,095 --> 00:05:11,755 with these small t traumas, not to panic. 88 00:05:13,375 --> 00:05:17,355 The number one way to work with them though is to be aware 89 00:05:17,355 --> 00:05:20,635 of them, to aware of the sums scars. 90 00:05:20,655 --> 00:05:24,955 And I've come into a place in my life where anything 91 00:05:24,955 --> 00:05:27,315 that doesn't feel good, that rises up any emotion 92 00:05:27,315 --> 00:05:30,605 that doesn't feel good, I go, wait a second, 93 00:05:32,215 --> 00:05:33,565 which samskara is this? 94 00:05:33,785 --> 00:05:37,965 And I become curious, what is this trying 95 00:05:37,985 --> 00:05:40,125 to teach me at this moment? 96 00:05:41,305 --> 00:05:44,365 Is this emotion even about my partner right now? 97 00:05:45,705 --> 00:05:49,045 Is it about my job right now? Is it about my client? 98 00:05:49,105 --> 00:05:52,325 Is it about what is happening right now? 99 00:05:52,385 --> 00:05:54,805 Or is it something deeper inside of me? 100 00:05:55,065 --> 00:05:57,645 And and often 101 00:05:58,465 --> 00:06:03,405 99.9% of time it is something inside of me. 102 00:06:04,745 --> 00:06:08,565 So becoming curious about these patterns 103 00:06:09,305 --> 00:06:12,005 of trauma is a huge step. 104 00:06:13,855 --> 00:06:18,275 And what I am really starting to realize 105 00:06:19,695 --> 00:06:22,975 in my ayuvedic practice is 106 00:06:23,525 --> 00:06:27,695 this beautiful ancient practice of Ayurveda 107 00:06:27,695 --> 00:06:29,255 that is thousands of years old, 108 00:06:30,715 --> 00:06:33,815 and this mysterious science 109 00:06:35,205 --> 00:06:39,775 that somehow the rishis wrote like 110 00:06:40,555 --> 00:06:42,175 we don't know how many years ago. 111 00:06:43,635 --> 00:06:46,975 Uh, we just know that as long as there have been humans, 112 00:06:46,985 --> 00:06:48,855 there have, there has been a ra. 113 00:06:51,475 --> 00:06:55,335 And every practice in this science is an 114 00:06:55,735 --> 00:06:57,535 antidote to trauma. 115 00:06:58,965 --> 00:07:02,575 That is what I have come to recognize and realize. 116 00:07:04,565 --> 00:07:06,825 Trauma gets stored in our body. 117 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:09,825 So if you want to heal 118 00:07:10,925 --> 00:07:14,545 and you are booking all the self-care, self-help books, 119 00:07:15,165 --> 00:07:16,825 you know, um, 120 00:07:17,365 --> 00:07:20,545 and you understand something logically that's great 121 00:07:20,545 --> 00:07:24,305 for your mental body, often the mental body is way ahead 122 00:07:24,365 --> 00:07:25,785 of the physical body. 123 00:07:27,485 --> 00:07:30,345 The link gets, gets disconnected and missed. 124 00:07:30,405 --> 00:07:31,745 And that's one of the issues. 125 00:07:33,925 --> 00:07:36,105 So how can we bring the link back together 126 00:07:37,645 --> 00:07:39,985 by practicing these ancient 127 00:07:41,335 --> 00:07:45,225 beautiful Ayurvedic practices to connect 128 00:07:46,045 --> 00:07:49,825 our mind, our mental body to our physical body, 129 00:07:50,205 --> 00:07:51,545 to connect them back? 130 00:07:52,015 --> 00:07:54,545 Because we were, 131 00:07:55,765 --> 00:07:57,185 we were always whole. 132 00:07:58,615 --> 00:08:02,545 It's not that we're doing these, you know, practices 133 00:08:02,805 --> 00:08:05,545 and we go to a healer to become whole. 134 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:08,425 We already are whole. You already have it all. 135 00:08:09,575 --> 00:08:12,025 It's just that we forget 136 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:15,985 because of these traumatic, you know, small t trauma events. 137 00:08:16,515 --> 00:08:21,405 Sometimes big T trauma events, we forget and we disconnect 138 00:08:21,715 --> 00:08:24,965 because it's not safe to be in our bodies. 139 00:08:26,345 --> 00:08:30,205 And so practices like ab 140 00:08:31,745 --> 00:08:36,475 sheara, which is application of oil on the body, warm oil 141 00:08:36,705 --> 00:08:39,035 that has beautiful, 142 00:08:39,185 --> 00:08:44,115 beautiful herbs cooked into it that is particular for 143 00:08:44,115 --> 00:08:45,715 that person's constitution. 144 00:08:46,375 --> 00:08:49,515 How how incredible is that? 145 00:08:50,185 --> 00:08:51,795 That they had figured this out? 146 00:08:52,525 --> 00:08:55,645 Every person has a particular constitution 147 00:08:57,555 --> 00:09:01,165 according to the, their, um, 148 00:09:01,915 --> 00:09:03,565 elemental way of being. 149 00:09:05,695 --> 00:09:09,665 And and they figured this out 150 00:09:10,165 --> 00:09:12,505 and they figured out 151 00:09:12,535 --> 00:09:15,745 what herbs would balance those elements, 152 00:09:16,495 --> 00:09:18,185 cook them into the oils, 153 00:09:19,085 --> 00:09:20,745 and then started massaging the person. 154 00:09:20,965 --> 00:09:23,385 And it's not just a massaging of the body 155 00:09:24,605 --> 00:09:27,665 and the benefits of these herbs that are intelligent 156 00:09:29,705 --> 00:09:31,865 carriers of information, by the way, 157 00:09:32,785 --> 00:09:35,005 and carriers of healing modalities. 158 00:09:36,185 --> 00:09:38,205 And they're penetrating into your body. 159 00:09:39,145 --> 00:09:41,365 But it's also about you 160 00:09:42,965 --> 00:09:45,855 becoming really good at 161 00:09:49,185 --> 00:09:50,405 giving yourself love. 162 00:09:51,945 --> 00:09:55,605 Ana ana is a word in reta 163 00:09:55,605 --> 00:09:59,925 that means immense amount of self love, self love, 164 00:10:01,285 --> 00:10:05,245 touching your own body, allowing yourself 165 00:10:05,305 --> 00:10:09,125 to really feel these oils, these herbal 166 00:10:10,155 --> 00:10:14,405 magical plants being penetrated into your body, 167 00:10:16,695 --> 00:10:17,695 Dropping your attention 168 00:10:17,835 --> 00:10:21,175 and your awareness into your body so that 169 00:10:22,235 --> 00:10:25,415 you remember who you are so that you remember 170 00:10:27,365 --> 00:10:29,255 that you not your mental body. 171 00:10:29,525 --> 00:10:32,975 That the mind takes you away and there are thoughts 172 00:10:33,075 --> 00:10:36,975 and it spins you out and out. 173 00:10:37,195 --> 00:10:40,455 And what stories are you, are you believing? 174 00:10:40,835 --> 00:10:42,175 You know your mind telling you? 175 00:10:42,805 --> 00:10:45,735 Yesterday I was speaking to 176 00:10:46,595 --> 00:10:49,055 my friend Lisa White, 177 00:10:49,055 --> 00:10:53,935 and she is, she's something, she's definitely, um, 178 00:10:54,975 --> 00:10:57,295 a very, very spiritual teacher. 179 00:10:58,075 --> 00:11:01,055 And and she teaches me every time I speak to her. 180 00:11:02,435 --> 00:11:04,775 And I said something like, oh, you know, 181 00:11:05,515 --> 00:11:08,735 I'm just worried about grieving Costa Rica 182 00:11:08,795 --> 00:11:09,895 and going back to Canada 183 00:11:10,355 --> 00:11:13,655 and I'm worried about what's gonna happen 184 00:11:13,915 --> 00:11:15,295 and when am I gonna come back? 185 00:11:16,435 --> 00:11:19,375 And she said, stop the stories. 186 00:11:19,875 --> 00:11:21,495 You're telling yourself the story. 187 00:11:22,235 --> 00:11:26,015 You are already building homes and healing centers 188 00:11:26,355 --> 00:11:28,655 and you are gonna go back whenever you want to. 189 00:11:28,755 --> 00:11:32,295 And I thought, wow, what a story I believed 190 00:11:33,435 --> 00:11:34,855 my mind telling me, . 191 00:11:36,155 --> 00:11:40,535 And so it's like that, you know, it, 192 00:11:40,635 --> 00:11:44,415 our mind is really good at making us believe our stories. 193 00:11:44,675 --> 00:11:48,095 It creates. So the antidote to 194 00:11:48,095 --> 00:11:51,295 that grew up into the body doing, 195 00:11:53,895 --> 00:11:56,525 which is application of oil on the third eye, 196 00:11:57,275 --> 00:11:58,805 opening your third eye. 197 00:11:59,605 --> 00:12:03,685 'cause the third eye, my friends, is your inner eye 198 00:12:05,045 --> 00:12:06,105 is your eye of wisdom. 199 00:12:07,455 --> 00:12:09,425 Open that eye so you can see clearly. 200 00:12:11,125 --> 00:12:14,785 You can see who you are. There's nothing scary about it. 201 00:12:15,685 --> 00:12:18,215 It's actually really scary to hide away and not know. 202 00:12:19,355 --> 00:12:22,695 And just go with whatever the society tells you 203 00:12:23,835 --> 00:12:24,895 do to do next. 204 00:12:26,795 --> 00:12:28,615 And just always be outside of your body. 205 00:12:28,685 --> 00:12:32,435 That feels really scary to me, to me. 206 00:12:32,435 --> 00:12:35,755 Um, and I have spent all of my life trying to figure back 207 00:12:36,615 --> 00:12:40,155 how I can come back into my body, how I can see 208 00:12:40,155 --> 00:12:43,795 with my third eye, how I can hear 209 00:12:44,745 --> 00:12:45,995 from my internal being. 210 00:12:46,735 --> 00:12:50,565 Um, you can too. 'cause that's who you are. 211 00:12:52,535 --> 00:12:56,155 And so other practices in the Ayurvedic tradition 212 00:12:56,585 --> 00:12:59,515 that really help strengthen our digestive track 213 00:13:00,215 --> 00:13:03,635 are important because not just because of digestive food, 214 00:13:04,535 --> 00:13:08,515 but our digestive track is, has multi levels 215 00:13:08,895 --> 00:13:10,755 of conscious awareness. 216 00:13:12,335 --> 00:13:16,385 It's, it's how we think, how we feel. Yeah. 217 00:13:16,445 --> 00:13:21,025 So you have probably heard of the new science now saying 218 00:13:21,135 --> 00:13:25,225 that your gut creates 90% 219 00:13:25,285 --> 00:13:26,785 of the serotonin in your body. 220 00:13:26,785 --> 00:13:28,705 That's the hormone that makes you feel good. 221 00:13:30,305 --> 00:13:34,525 And you know, when you have that gut feeling, we, 222 00:13:34,665 --> 00:13:35,725 we already know all this 223 00:13:35,725 --> 00:13:37,805 because our ancestors knew all this. 224 00:13:38,465 --> 00:13:41,045 So this is just common knowledge that we've forgotten. 225 00:13:42,465 --> 00:13:44,525 So remembering to listen to your gut. 226 00:13:44,985 --> 00:13:48,805 So the practices that we do, the digestive spices 227 00:13:48,835 --> 00:13:51,365 that we eat and ghee 228 00:13:51,745 --> 00:13:53,365 and, you know, clarified butter 229 00:13:53,435 --> 00:13:56,005 that we make while we are chanting to it, 230 00:13:56,005 --> 00:13:57,245 which is something I do. 231 00:13:58,755 --> 00:14:00,575 Um, and I'm so happy that this is, 232 00:14:00,715 --> 00:14:02,375 has become a tradition in my family. 233 00:14:03,595 --> 00:14:07,895 And so these have multilevel 234 00:14:08,855 --> 00:14:12,925 benefits of awakening us, of bringing 235 00:14:12,955 --> 00:14:17,405 that intelligence into our bodies so that we can feel 236 00:14:18,105 --> 00:14:21,165 the truth of who we are so that we can see 237 00:14:22,155 --> 00:14:25,565 with the intelligence of our being who we are, 238 00:14:26,945 --> 00:14:30,365 not just, not just like learn it with our head. 239 00:14:31,235 --> 00:14:33,655 You know, that's great. I did that for years. 240 00:14:34,635 --> 00:14:35,675 I learned and learned 241 00:14:35,735 --> 00:14:37,475 and studied everything, every book, 242 00:14:38,435 --> 00:14:40,775 um, for 20 years. 243 00:14:41,755 --> 00:14:46,635 And it wasn't until my entire being cracked 244 00:14:46,635 --> 00:14:49,925 open that the teachings fell in. 245 00:14:51,185 --> 00:14:54,905 So that's what I'm interested in cracking open 246 00:14:55,925 --> 00:14:57,945 and letting the teachings fall in. 247 00:14:59,165 --> 00:15:01,945 And the teachings are all around us. 248 00:15:02,205 --> 00:15:03,905 The teachings are in the trees, 249 00:15:04,785 --> 00:15:07,525 the teachings are in the water, the 250 00:15:08,055 --> 00:15:09,095 teachings are in the grass. 251 00:15:10,485 --> 00:15:12,345 We just have to be able to see 'em 252 00:15:12,445 --> 00:15:13,865 and feel them and hear them. 253 00:15:14,635 --> 00:15:17,295 And you can do that by opening your internal eye. 254 00:15:18,675 --> 00:15:23,435 And so all the Ayurvedic modalities help 255 00:15:23,455 --> 00:15:28,435 us step by step to get closer to our body, to take care 256 00:15:28,435 --> 00:15:32,515 of our body, to remind our body that the war is over, 257 00:15:33,505 --> 00:15:36,395 that our body can be pampered, 258 00:15:36,415 --> 00:15:41,375 our body can be taken care of, our body can be fed 259 00:15:42,015 --> 00:15:43,695 properly with the right kind 260 00:15:43,695 --> 00:15:46,055 of nutrition at the right times. 261 00:15:46,965 --> 00:15:49,735 Because our body has an internal clock, 262 00:15:49,875 --> 00:15:51,735 our body has an internal intelligence. 263 00:15:51,755 --> 00:15:55,215 Our body knows. And when it is deprived 264 00:15:56,405 --> 00:15:58,175 from being fed and seen 265 00:15:58,435 --> 00:16:02,455 and taken care of, it will go into fight or flight mode. 266 00:16:02,835 --> 00:16:07,575 And so we live our lives in this state 267 00:16:07,795 --> 00:16:09,605 of fight or flight, 268 00:16:09,865 --> 00:16:11,925 and there is nothing good that comes out of that. 269 00:16:11,985 --> 00:16:14,405 And I think that it's time to stop that 270 00:16:15,775 --> 00:16:17,235 the ocean is agreeing with me. 271 00:16:17,745 --> 00:16:20,715 It's time to stop that, it's time to awaken. 272 00:16:21,425 --> 00:16:24,515 It's time to, as my teacher Dr. 273 00:16:24,745 --> 00:16:29,035 Claudia Welsh posted yesterday, it is time to step down 274 00:16:30,055 --> 00:16:32,275 our treadmill and live our lives 275 00:16:33,155 --> 00:16:35,675 profoundly the way we want them to live it. 276 00:16:37,285 --> 00:16:39,665 And it's, it takes courage to do that 277 00:16:40,255 --> 00:16:41,945 because when we are on the treadmill 278 00:16:43,835 --> 00:16:45,955 mindlessly, it's easier. 279 00:16:46,105 --> 00:16:49,835 Yeah, kind of. Because we don't have to think about things. 280 00:16:49,845 --> 00:16:51,995 Everything is thought out for us. 281 00:16:52,855 --> 00:16:56,275 So we just have to live our lives going to work 282 00:16:56,375 --> 00:16:58,235 and coming back and just surviving, 283 00:16:59,745 --> 00:17:02,035 step down the treadmill and see what happens. 284 00:17:02,925 --> 00:17:04,865 Be courageous enough to do that. 285 00:17:05,165 --> 00:17:08,665 And let these Ayurvedic practices support you. 286 00:17:10,045 --> 00:17:11,665 Let them heal your body. 287 00:17:13,245 --> 00:17:16,585 Let them guide you back into your wholeness 288 00:17:16,585 --> 00:17:18,705 because that's who you truly are my dear. 289 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:23,105 You are wholeness, you are whole. 290 00:17:23,365 --> 00:17:26,345 You have always been for centuries and centuries 291 00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:28,915 and who knows, millions of years. 292 00:17:29,385 --> 00:17:30,755 Your spirit has been whole. 293 00:17:31,465 --> 00:17:36,435 This is only a blip in the timeline of your existence. 294 00:17:37,115 --> 00:17:39,695 And so don't give in to 295 00:17:41,105 --> 00:17:43,315 getting stuck in the patterns 296 00:17:43,415 --> 00:17:46,795 of your stories and see what happens. 297 00:17:49,145 --> 00:17:51,765 And, uh, thank you so much for listening 298 00:17:51,865 --> 00:17:56,245 and if you have been inspired by anything 299 00:17:56,245 --> 00:18:00,445 that I have been teaching in these podcasts, I hope that 300 00:18:01,265 --> 00:18:02,685 you can one day come with me 301 00:18:03,345 --> 00:18:07,245 to this healing land in Costa Rica, do a retreat with me, 302 00:18:08,175 --> 00:18:12,995 um, where in a week we learn a lot together and 303 00:18:13,375 --> 00:18:17,355 or just hoping that I can work with you one on one. 304 00:18:18,385 --> 00:18:20,595 When you're ready, when you're ready 305 00:18:20,615 --> 00:18:24,875 to crack open your spirit and let the teachings fall in. 306 00:18:25,865 --> 00:18:29,275 Okay, my labs. I'll see you next time. How you go.