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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Present Fathers podcast tonight.
Our guest is Rob Kenny, better known as Dad.
How do I. Rob, welcome to the show.
How are you? Yeah, thanks for having me.
I'm good.
Awesome.
Well, we are super pumped to talk with you and learn a little bit
about how you got your channel going and all the great things you're doing with
that and talk about fatherhood and much other things.
But let me do a quick little bio
about you so that our viewers
can level set for the few people who may not be subscribed to you yet.
But Rob is a dad of two.
He's raised two adult children and they still talk.
He makes how to videos on YouTube and he does it.
He does his best to provide useful,
practical content for basic tasks that everyone should know how to do.
So Rob, why don't we go in and talk a little bit
about why you started the channel in the first place and
kind of go from there?
Yeah,
there's a lot of variables that went into why I started it.
I thought of the channel a couple of years before I actually put it up
because, you know, my dad left when I was 14.
And so there's a lot of little things that I didn't know how to do.
And so I learned a lot of things the hard way.
I learned how to tie a tie from from my roommate when I was 19.
And, you know, it's a little it's embarrassing to not know
how to do certain things that people just expect you to know how to do.
And so I on my channel, I put up a lot of things and people
say, well, isn't this common sense?
Well, you know, maybe you had a good, good guide that showed you
how to do some of this stuff and helped you think through it, through it.
It's not common sense.
Some of the stuff is not common
sense for people, and stuff's a little intimidating. So.
So I thought I'd put up a channel that where people could feel loved
and come in and learn how to do something
and walk away, kind of feeling good and keep it wholesome.
You know, I don't swear. I don't.
I try to just get you in and get you back out and
spend a little time
together to, you know, I tell dad jokes, too, so.
But anyway, the way it started was I thought of it a couple of years
prior to the pandemic.
And then when the pandemic came,
my daughter, who she's 31 now, she was 28 at the time, she kept on me.
Dad, you need to do this.
You need to do it. And like, you know.
So finally I ran out of excuses
because I was locked up like everybody else, you know?
And so I, I went ahead and did how to tie a tie.
That was my first video. And I did it.
I started my channel on April 1st of 2020.
Ironically enough, it was April Fool's Day that I started.
And then my first upload was April 2nd because I was still trying to figure
out how to upload.
And then I did how to
shave on April 3rd and then kind of started
to get my feet under me and just trying to put out helpful content.
And then it went viral in May of May of 2020.
So about a month and a half later, I only had probably six, eight videos
probably up at the time that people got wind of my back story
and understanding why I was doing it was just trying to pass along some
nuggets that I had to learn the hard way to try to give people a way to do things.
I never want people to feel like this is how you do.
It is
you don't have a way, way to iron your shirt.
This is this is always work for me, you know, And I just trying to pass along
a lot of little nuggets like that.
That's so great.
I mean, it's just there's so little of that in our world today.
It feels like especially online, you know, people love to hate online.
And it's I was immediately just impressed with how
this is positive and wholesome, like you said.
And it's helpful.
So I guess my first question is, what was the the type of not that you tied
was a double Windsor, was it, you know, which which tie was the.
Oh yeah.
For Harry for that.
I honestly don't even know.
We'll go back and watch.
I've always known it's my dad.
That's what it
nice inside of me to put you on the spot there to me, my buddy.
And he didn't tell me what it was.
Very cool, George.
He got all tied up in knots. What are you doing, man?
That's embarrassing, George.
I dare you to do that to me.
I apologize.
Well, maybe I can help you to talk you into a less embarrassing topic,
and then, you know, your channel has just a few more subscribers than ours, so
we can kind of take the embarrassment on that one.
So speaking of your massive subscriber count over four and a half million,
you know, how long then from that may point to, you know, it just blew up.
And what was that whole experience like?
Because I mean, that
that is extremely rare that someone starts a channel
and then a month later is, you know, totally exploded like that.
Yeah, it is terrifying, honestly.
You know, I thought I was going to have 30 or 40 subscribers.
I thought I was going to have a nice little neat community.
And we were all going to grow together and we're going to learn from each other.
That's how I envisioned it.
I didn't I had no idea is going to be what it is.
And so I've had to had to deal with that because I consider myself an introvert.
I I've done everything I possibly can to avoid public speaking my whole life.
And, you know, God has a sense of humor.
So here I am, so it's
it's crazy,
you know, And I have to give the glory to him because I
and I it's funny because I was interviewed by YouTube
when my channel blew up and I told them
I they asked me how I did it and I said, I believe God did it.
And they looked at me like I had three eyes.
So right.
Well, I'm not surprised with that reaction. But
from from my point of view, I it it's a ministry in a way.
Right.
You're able to give to so many
and help so many with, just like I said, basic things.
But if you weren't fortunate enough to have someone to teach you those things,
then especially when you become an adult, it's kind of scary, right?
Because people love to judge really quickly.
And, you know, I wonder how many people have, you know,
been spared some some trouble simply from watching one of your videos?
Probably a lot.
But I think what I hope so.
I mean, that's that's my hope.
So go ahead. Yeah.
Oh, I was just going to say, you know, the other thing is authenticity for you.
You know, it's just from the heart.
Like you said, you weren't really setting out to make this,
you know, moneymaking scheme
or whatever it was just genuinely wanting to provide something helpful.
Um, you know, that also seems to be rare in our society today.
Do you think that
that's the core reason why, you know, you grew
so fast is just it was very authentic and and real?
I think.
So I try to talk to the camera
like I'm talking to my own kids, so I have to live with that, you know?
So I have sponsorships
all the time coming to me, wanting me to want to sponsor my videos.
And I, I have to turn 97% of them down because it's like,
that's not something I would I even had a, you know,
anyway, not to get off on something else, but I like to play blackjack.
I'm just going to be candid with you.
I like play blackjack, so I'm not Antigua gambling, even though I'm a man of faith.
I do like to play blackjack because I enjoy the I enjoy
sitting around with my brothers at a blackjack table.
Anyway, I had a gambling site reach out to me and I'm like,
I just I don't want to be a hypocrite.
But the reality is I don't feel right sharing gambling on my site, you know?
So I have to.
I just have to be really, really selective.
I think that's why I feel good about Firestone, because I've always had a good
you know, Firestone has a good name.
I feel good about having them kind of support
helping to support me, because I do need the support,
especially since I'm turning down so many other opportunities to make money.
But I got to be authentic because I I got to live with myself.
I got to be able to sleep at night.
Yeah, I, I think that that is very apparent.
You know, like you said, how you talk to the camera like it's your own kids.
I immediately picked up on that when I first discovered your videos.
And, um.
Yeah.
Can you talk a little bit about the different
you're starting to do more like, what is it
the Mondays you do things, Wednesdays you do things.
Can you talk about those kind of differences?
Yeah, I'm grateful.
I saw my channel went viral.
I told this to my daughter.
I said, You know, I don't want to just, you know,
be a trained monkey running around fixing things.
I'd rather be able to share my heart with my Internet kids, kind of like
I shared my heart with my own kids where I want to pass along wisdom.
But I also didn't know how that was going to work.
You know, I tripped Trip.
You're you know, you want to learn how to tie a tie and I'm going to preach that.
And so I was sensitive to the fact that I didn't
want to take a left turn and or a right turn
to where
people were offended by that, so to speak.
But I'm grateful that once my channel went viral, I had a couple of
videos are just able to kind of share my heart just because I was like,
I got to put up a video and I don't have anything, so
I didn't want to have it to go go two weeks
before I actually put up a video because I was, you know,
seven media requests of, you know, people wanting to publish a book.
And I was just bombarded with emails when my panel went viral.
And so I was trying to do the best I could anyway.
So I put up some stuff that kind of shared my heart.
And so now I feel comfortable with it.
And I've had people say, Oh,
I thought I was going to learn how to use hand tools and you're preaching at me by
and it's like just leave, you know, you don't have to take a parting shot at me.
Well, you know, I'm trying to this is what I did as a dad.
I tried to share my heart with my kids.
I'm trying to share my heart with you.
And most people appreciate it.
I think so. I have wisdom Wednesdays.
So I do a quote and then I talk about what that quote means to me.
And I try to inspire people with those quotes.
And I have money Mondays to where I I've gotten into that recently
where I started showing sharing stuff about money because people
need, you know, so many people that are illiterate with money.
I'm not a genius with money, but I do know some things
that I've learned, saying some things the hard way, too.
And and it's gotten so much easier to be able to invest.
And so I want to kind of point people to that.
So anyway,
and I also have so I did
Funny Friday for a time and then now I just changed it to feel Good Friday
because I can do I can do Funny Friday still,
because that makes you feel good with that joke, you know?
Or I can do where I told a story about this little kid that his mom wrote me.
I don't know if you saw it last week, but I did.
His mom wrote me
learn how to make scrambled eggs, and that really touched my heart.
I was like, Oh, man. And is dad.
He lost his dad in the service three years ago.
That, you know, the fact
that I'm able to touch lives like that, that's amazing.
And so unworthy and blessed
to have this platform that I have to pour in to people.
That's amazing
that yeah, I,
I saw that video and I was holding back tears a little bit.
It was so cool to see, you know, because it's just again,
you don't there's there's just so many things on the Internet.
They're either
you know, they're they're a production or they're they're not.
It's like Hollywood light.
And so much of it just doesn't seem real.
And, you know, a video like that, you can't really mimic that.
That's not something that someone could go create on their own.
And I think it's pretty apparent why
so many people love that, because it's just true.
And it's nice to have something that that basic and refreshing.
You know, I've been talking a lot.
I know the other guys brought
probably some questions for you here, but yeah, Bravo.
So here's my dad.
How do I question How do you handle the negativity?
Anyone with an audience is going to have some negativity.
You mentioned it a little bit.
Do you interact with someone?
Trolls and says, Oh, I don't want to hear you preach?
Do you talk to them about it?
Do you ignore them?
What's been your strategy to to handle it in a good way?
Yeah.
Now that I'm over three years in, I've gotten better at it.
It's hard, you know?
I'm like, I'm like anybody else where I can have, you know, 99 great comments.
And then you have some troll wanting to just say
something negative and you know, I'm human. So.
So that hurts.
But I know who I am as again, as a man of God.
I don't
I it's this isn't who I am.
I'm just trying to do what God would have me to do
with the gifts that he's given me and just trying to be faithful with that.
And so if people have a problem with it, you know what?
And boy, I've had I've had people you know, surprisingly,
if you've watched some of my videos, one on how to take down a cord,
man, there's the tape experts out there.
It's amazing how many of them there are for his
or does it One guy made that comment and I said, Boy, for real.
I thought I was just trying to help some people.
Ironic thing is I went out to a restaurant the other night with a couple of buddies
that I used to work with,
and there was a guy that taped on a cord and it was awful.
I mean, it was like we're snaking around and tape here.
And it was just basically
somebody, you know, waiting for somebody to trip over it.
I took a picture of it because I'm going to share that on my show and say,
this is amazing.
Goodbye, my beloved.
So I guess my question to you would be based off the channel,
what's your favorite story from somebody that they've either shared
or learned from you
or I don't know if there's a single story necessarily.
There's been a lot of them where people say that it's therapeutic
to just listen to me.
And that caught me off guard,
I guess, because again, I thought I was showing people how to tie a tie.
And I've had people telling me they're crying, watching me tie a tie.
That was I didn't anticipate that in my ignorance.
I thought I was just going to show you how to tie.
And I think it's just the, you know, people that maybe miss their dad
or never had a dad or don't have never had a dad moment
here, hearing that stuff really, really caught me off guard.
And people, you know, put on my shaving video
and just have it run in the background just to hear my voice.
And so that kind of touches my heart.
I'm like, you know, I feel for them.
I can kind of relate to it a little bit when once they brought it up.
Yeah, I mean,
fatherlessness is such a huge problem
and it's a wound that, you know,
that can extend generations, even.
So I would I can only imagine,
you know, getting those types of letters and knowing that you're able to kind of
ease that pain a little bit is is definitely
a beautiful surprise from this, Right.
Yeah.
And I think because because I have some empathy.
I think because,
you know, understanding some of the pain, you know, people have been through way
more than I've ever been through.
You know, I went through something we've all been through something, sadly,
I think in our society, too, we have a little bit of a victim mentality.
So people, people who've been through nothing
want to act like they've been through something to try to get anyway,
try to help it, help them get somewhere when it's just not beneficial.
And for me as again, as a matter of faith,
I, I've been a believer for sense for probably about
30, 30 years, about time my daughter was born. And
I'm a
little embarrassed to say it took me as long as it did to forgive my dad
because I was deep down waiting for him to actually ask for forgiveness.
And, you know, if people are waiting for somebody to
to ask for forgiveness, that may never happen.
And meanwhile, your life is going going by.
Right.
And you're you're spending energy on something
that is not worth your energy.
And and I was that was me.
I was spending energy spinning that plate.
And I've talked about that in my videos.
It's just it's not good for you.
It's not healthy. And, you know, and I've been forgiven much.
And so I needed I wish I would have done it sooner.
And there was freedom for me on the other side.
I think, you know, people how how can I forgive what I'm here
to tell you that on the other side of it, I wish I'd done it sooner
because, boy, there's freedom for me that I didn't anticipate.
I'd like to dive into your childhood a little bit more,
but I can just personally relate to what you just said very much.
My my dad and I were estranged for.
I mean, we would talk every now and then, but it was basically a decade
and a lot of that was my own anger,
a lot of it unjust.
It I won't tell you the whole story.
It's a little messy.
I did we actually did do an episode together on this podcast.
I thought it was pretty awesome to be able to do that with my dad.
You know, on the other end of it.
But it wasn't actually until I,
like you said, kind of forgave first internally, right?
And that I was then
open to having genuine relationship again.
And it was almost at that point that it was very rapid.
It just like all of it went away, all that separation in
and all that distance just evaporated. And,
you know, we both just apologized.
I'm so sorry that, you know, things have been this way.
And, you know, our relationship has just been completely different
since that moment.
That was
seven, eight years ago now that we kind of reconnected like that.
So it well, you know, I'm literally a product of what you were just describing.
You know, the relationship I have with my dad today is exactly because of that.
Letting go of that anger and choosing forgiveness
is just a powerful thing.
And so I appreciate you being candid about your position as well
in your own story there.
Um, yeah, there's when I heard the quote
that unforgiveness is like drinking poison
and hoping somehow hurts the other person when it's killing you.
And that's that was me.
And when, when I finally heard that, it really was an epiphany for me
where that's me, I need to quit drinking this poison.
And so being able to let it go wasn't easy.
You know, It came through a lot of tears and a lot of praying.
But boy, I'm so grateful that I was able to.
And then he ended up asking for forgiveness before he passed
it. I had a good
friend of mine tell me another phrase that I really enjoyed.
It was forgiveness as a gift.
And it's a very hard gift, a gift for those who aren't willing to receive.
And, you know, that's that's a hard thing to understand
because you still harbor feelings, you know,
whatever it is a trauma or, you know, a relationship or whatever the case may be.
But I think the fact that you both, you know, work through
that is an amazing thing. You guys gave that gift.
And that's that's the hardest thing to do, is start that process.
And I think that's what a lot of people are afraid to do.
So, you know, there's men
like you and like George who are willing to step up and say, Hey,
I did it, you can do it.
I think that's very powerful for other people.
So, Rob, can you
go into a little bit more detail about, you know, what happened with your dad?
And like, I go into it in my book, I you know, my parents started out really well.
I'm from a Catholic family.
I ended up rejecting that as I got
older and went around and that's how I wanted to live.
But anyway, I so I'm one of eight kids.
The six older kids were born in Wichita and then work dried up for my dad.
My mom was one of 12 kids, and so I think
she envisioned our family growing up
amongst all the cousins and being this, you know, just a big community.
And so my dad, you know, again, thinking of it from my dad's perspective
now as an adult and having six kids works drying up, what what am I going to do?
I got to find the jobs. I got to pay for this.
Now, this troop that I have that I have here, you know, So
he ended up moving us to New Orleans with the space program.
And my mom didn't like that
because she was getting uprooted from her deep roots in Kansas.
And so
he moved us there.
And then we're there for a couple of years.
And that's where I was born.
And then then my dad saw another opportunity up here in Everett
and just north of Seattle, where he moved us all up here.
And then my younger sister was born up here.
And so and all that took a toll on my mom.
Mental health wasn't great.
There wasn't a whole lot of help for mental struggles.
My mom struggled with anxiety and struggled with different things,
and she was uprooted from her support group in Kansas.
And so she she started to kind of unravel a little bit again, you know, from a
I was pretty young at that time and then going on into the my 11,
12 year old time, our house was super dysfunctional
and then my
my dad end up getting custody of us.
But he he I'm not sure he really wanted us,
but he got custody of us because I think he felt that was the right thing to do.
And my mom was considered an unfit mother.
And so she was wasn't allowed to come around the house.
And my dad would load us up with groceries and and leave
for a week or two at a time with me and the younger siblings.
You know, he'd be in big trouble these days.
But at the time, it was the seventies, and so he got away with it.
But that was tough, you know, So there was already some
hard feelings towards my dad.
And then finally he came home one day and said he was done raising kids.
And he said, the older kids are going to have to go live with
or the younger kids are going to live with older kids
or they're going to foster care.
And I always thought that was an idle threat.
But my brother that I ended up living with, he said, no,
that was not an idle threat.
Dad was if we wouldn't have taken you, you would have gone to foster care.
So, you know, like I've shared earlier off air,
there's means going around saying my dad abandoned me.
I wouldn't use the word abandoned, but he did reject me, you know?
So it's pretty when I kind of relive it.
And I think how he it
there's a pretty blatant rejection in that he just didn't want me.
And that's pretty hard, you know, And that's pretty hurtful
if I allow myself to go there. And
I can't, though, because I've forgiven him for it.
But anyway, so I know then with my brother,
who is nine years older than me, he was 23.
I was 14 when my dad did that.
And so I live with him and my my brother
Rick and his wife Karen, who and they were newlyweds.
They'd only been married for a couple of months
when I went to live with them and we lived in an eight by 35 trailer.
I always thought it was a mobile home, but it was a trailer.
My brother built a shelf, put up a bed in the back of the trailer,
and that's where I slept and lived with them for for a couple of years.
It was tough on everybody, you know, It's hard for them now.
Suddenly I have a 14 year old kid going through puberty and it was hard
for me to live in such tight quarters with my brother and his wife.
And so it was hard.
We did that for a couple of years and then they moved out to Enumclaw
and I wanted to graduate
from high school from my same high school and Bellevue, Sammamish, and I ended up
so I ended up living with my brother Don, who's a couple of years older than me.
We got an apartment and I lived with him for my senior year.
How did you, like, make ends meet?
I mean, did you work a job and everything?
And I did.
I did. My dad my dad gave us $200 a month.
I think is what I ended up getting.
$200 a month, which, you know. Yeah.
Even then you couldn't live off 200, $200 a month.
I needed to eat, you know, that's how much I ate a month. So.
Yeah.
So I played football my senior year and then I wanted to play basketball,
but I, I just couldn't afford it. I had to.
I went out for the team and a week later I just told the coach I, I got work.
I can't, I can't keep up, keep this up.
And so, so it's unfortunate.
There's some things that I missed out on.
But it also, you know, helped me
grow in a lot of ways, having to take on that responsibility.
Yeah. So you all had to grow up real quick.
Um, and my heart kind of breaks here in that story.
It's just,
you know, like you said, the rejection.
I can't even imagine that pain.
Um, like,
how long did it take you
to even be at a place where you felt you could even attempt forgiveness?
I would imagine that was a pretty heavy thing to carry.
It was, yeah.
So, you know, and again, I share it in my book.
I called it Coughing up Hairballs with my brother, my brother Rick.
It took me a long time to cough it up and get it out.
I would be sobbing.
I, I still write in this room over here, sitting over there
talking to him on the phone for a couple of hours,
just crying like I can't I can't let this go.
This is just too hard, am I? Because my brother Rick wanted to
honor my dad on Father's Day.
And I'm like, a Father's Day is my day with my kids.
It's not about that guy, you know, He's I can't bring myself to honor him
after what he did to me.
And so it took a lot to get to the point
to where I was able to to let him go. But
but it's good now, you know, God, God is good.
And I I'm in a great place now.
And I think you alluded to it earlier.
You did have a chance to kind of reconcile with him, right?
I did, yeah.
We reconnect.
Yeah.
Sadly, I think our relationship was always still kind of superficial.
And I think I was his choice.
He lived
he kept his distance where he lived 5 hours away
and he had married my step mom, who we never really got along with too.
And so he
it was finally my brother Rick, the one I went to live with.
My brother Rick told my dad, Hey, you need to ask your kids for forgiveness
and tell them you love them because I'm not sure they know my dad.
My dad? Kind of, Yeah.
I don't know.
In his own mind, maybe had kind of moved on, like, Oh, that's already
water under the bridge.
Well, yeah, but you didn't really do what you needed to do
to get to the point where it was water under the bridge.
You just kind of swept it under the rug.
And so he finally did.
We were out on a boat and we were out fishing and he asked me to
if I'd forgive him.
And I said, Dad, I was four.
I just want you to understand I was a 14 year old boy.
Really hard time to have a dad reject you when you're going through puberty.
You think you're a pervert because you're looking at girls differently.
You got all kinds of things going through your head.
I said that was I was a tough, tough time for me, but I forgive you.
I said, I've already forgiven you.
All right.
I forgive you. A few years ago, Dad. So.
And plus, he was a weak man by that time.
He is in his mid eighties. And so,
you know, if he
if he is a younger man where he did what he did to me,
I might try to take a pound of flesh,
but he was pretty weak.
So I was kind of looking through him as I as he was telling me that,
well, it seems like you've grown so much.
And I kind of want to shift gears here a little bit because hearing this story
and hearing what you've had to learn the hard way,
I feel like there's reading your book and watching your videos.
I've seen that you're kind of a big
do it yourself or you love to figure out things.
You love to tell, to find a challenge and grow
from it and learn and then just produce something great.
And I think that's kind of
the heart of what is behind your your channel to me personally.
And so I'm a big do it yourselfer myself or a DIY or as they call us.
And my my main question was,
can you discuss like the significant life lessons or values that you learned
through your like your, you know, your your do it yourself experiences
and how they they translate to your role as a father?
Yeah, I think I think a lot of the DIY
and I shared this in my book keep plugging my book
shamelessly I put a plug away way.
This is for my like,
I got into DIY early on
because I learned how I had to learn how to build a fence
because I was kind of thrown into it and had to. Yikes.
I don't know how to build a fence.
Our neighbor's dog knocked down our fence and he didn't know how to build a fence.
I was like,
I got to figure this out then.
And so I called my brother, who Rick was a journeyman cabinetmaker.
So he I learned a lot of things from him.
And he was very good at helping me understand that, you know,
you're not as long as you're careful, you're not going to do anything
terrible that you can't work your way out of.
You just got to be smart as as you go along.
And so I loved being able to do DIY right along with my kids.
I think it's so important to do it
with your kids and have them learn instead.
It's so much easier if I just did it myself
and I could get it done way faster.
But I'm not helping my kids
learn how to problem solve, I think.
And so I think it's helpful to get them included.
You know, and it's interesting because now my Internet kids, it's very much
the same way.
I have 1,000,001 stuff, things I got to do around my house still.
And sometimes I just go, I just got to get it done.
I don't have time to videotape it and edit it
and put it up on my channel and scan do it, you know?
So there's so many projects I've done probably in the last two months
that I haven't shared, just because I don't have
I don't have the bandwidth, you know.
But anyway, all that to say when you're raising kids, I think it's so important
because it's kind of like life.
It's walking them through, Hey.
And plus you get to spend a little time together and you get to,
you know, sadly, it turns into,
you know, there's the whole joke about who's holding the flashlight.
And, you know, my dad, these were screaming matches and everything.
I think part of it is because a lot of guys,
you know, we're kind of expected to know how to do things.
And so I think in our frustration,
we're already a little tense because we don't know what we're doing.
And then our kids, not a homo flashlight properly.
And then can you hold the flashlight?
Probably, and really deep down going, why can't I figure this out?
So I think there's something
I think there's a little bit a little bit of that built up.
That's such a good point.
So it's really not about the fence at all or fixing.
It's about the process and about learning from that
and that sense of competence and achievement is incredible.
I know for me personally, I had this philosophy for years that
it's just easier to just buy a new one.
So why would I fix it if I can just get it from the store?
You know? And that worked for me for years.
And now I'm realizing when I have a son,
that's a terrible philosophy because I don't know how to fix anything
now because I just bought it for years.
And so this is my moment to realize,
okay, it's time to get dirty with my hands and really learn how to do this stuff.
So when it comes to DIY, it sounds like your channel,
your digital creation, is DIY as well.
So that's really cool.
So will you ever bring on a production team of other people to help,
or do you think it's part of the ethos of the channel to do it yourself?
Yeah, that's a really good question.
I so there's been talk of a TV show for a while.
We've had a couple of production companies wanting to do something where it would
elaborate a little, but more where I bring on experts and they, you know,
because I'm a jack of all trades, master of none,
I know how to do just about anything, but I not anything great.
So, you know, if people say, Hey, dad, show me how to rewire my house,
not going to show you that might show you how to change a clock yourself.
Yeah, it's I tell my wife as I go, I'll go figure out almost anything.
But when it comes to electrical sockets and stuff, I'm like,
You can literally die doing that. I'm not touching it,
but for that one and I'll take that.
Yeah, yeah.
Electricity and garage doors.
You don't mess with the springs.
I've learned
quite a few times trying to fix my own so.
Well.
Hey, the real thing about that phrase, it never gets finished.
It's a jack of all trades.
The master of none, but oftentimes is better than a master of one.
So, like, there's that.
Yeah, I've heard.
Heard that recently.
Yeah.
So, Rob, I got to say, man, like your your mind works so much like mine,
it's kind of scary.
It's almost like I'm looking in the mirror eventually, like I have a wisdom
Wednesday, I have a financial Friday for my articles I read on Twitter.
And man, I just I just.
I appreciate you, man.
Yeah, it's great to to, to hear all these thoughts come out loud
and I'm not the only one, so I can see why your channel does so well.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, I Yeah, just trying to pass along again.
I'm so. I feel unworthy.
I am grateful for the opportunity to be able to pass along some stuff to.
To people.
Yeah, in my own way.
Everybody's got their own niche.
People are, you know, deliver it differently.
They're going to reach a different audience than me.
Yeah, for sure.
And God was good to Brandon and I.
We have an amazing father.
He's our best friend, but my father had an absolutely horrible
upbringing and I got to see the changes he made generationally.
And I guess that brings me to my next question for you is
how do you think you approach fatherhood differently based off of your upbringing
and the things you went through?
Yeah, I think
definitely so.
And I've shared this before when when I when I was 14 as a 14,
the best A 14 year old kid, I, I vowed that if I ever had
the opportunity, I'd never do that and I'd do it differently.
You know, it's easy to say that as a 14 year old is much harder to live it.
You know, life gets in the way.
You get stuck in traffic and you, you know,
you have a bad day at work and stuff.
It's, you know, it's a little bit harder to actually live it out.
But I did vow to do that.
And thankfully, right before my daughter was born was
when God got a hold of me, because prior to that I was a bit of a rebel.
I was raised in the Catholic Church
and then I didn't feel like there was enough good answers for me
and I would just hold.
You had to believe it because that's what we believe.
Like, well, you know, that's not going to help me when I go to the university
and people are asking questions, that's not good enough.
I need to be able to have a reasonable faith so I can
have answers, you know, that satisfy me.
I'm not going to know everything, but I need enough answers
to where I feel like, okay, I believe and for me, a big part was the resurrection.
You know, if Jesus didn't raise or of all men must be pitied,
if he is if he is rose and risen,
that changes everything, right?
And so it all hinges on that.
I think we can get so caught up in so many different things about
Christianity trying to defend Christianity compared
to all the different things and abortion and all these different things
or, you know, prove to me that the resurrection didn't happen.
And I think there's enough evidence to show that it did happen.
And that has ramifications that are huge.
And so having that.
But anyway, so I became a believer right before my daughter was born
and that I'm grateful for that because I would have probably
misled my kids, unfortunately, in a lot of different ways, I think.
And so we started out when the kids were little praying
every night, you know, we would pray together and that was a dad
praying you can I'm confessing to my Heavenly
Father that I don't have it all together.
And so my kids are getting to see that firsthand that, Lord, I'm
just trying to do the best that I can and my kids, you know?
And so I think it's important, again, forgiveness and helping
my kids understand, hey, I'm not perfect, we're not perfect.
We're just doing the best we can and God's given us for a window of time.
And we want to you know, equip you to be the best adults you could be.
I talk about that a lot. You know, we didn't want to raise good kids.
We want to raise good adults. And
the sad part about
raising good adults is they move across the country. So
because they're not living in your basement anymore.
So, yeah, my my son lives in Virginia.
I miss him every day.
But and then my daughter
has been in Tennessee, in Knoxville for a time,
and she came back and then she went to New York
and now she's coming back again, her and her husband.
So anyway, when you would train them to get they feel like
they can move anywhere, there are two independent.
The two take we'll take that word of caution.
Maybe we can draw the line a little bit better because they maybe
hold back on some of the training so that they have some room in your house.
I like that. Yeah.
So that's such a great point.
I wanted to talk about real quick.
As fathers, it's so hard to admit that we're wrong to our children,
our egos get in the way.
We don't want to say that we made a mistake,
but what a beautiful opportunity with prayer to talk to God and say, God,
I made some mistakes today. I want to apologize for that.
Let's talk about that and then your children
get to hear you talk to God and it takes the ego out of it.
There's no you know, I'm having to apologize.
This one I'm not comfortable with.
No one is great in as great as God is.
And so to be able to get down on our knees together and apologize
and pray together,
that teaches our kids a lot of humility and that that's a wonderful opportunity.
So thank you for mentioning that.
Yeah, thank you.
I think it was huge because I think if you don't help your kids
understand that you're not perfect, they're going to find out.
You may as well get ahead of it.
So because we're going to we're going to find out
when they're about 12 that you a dad, maybe.
No, that doesn't know as much as he tried to pretend he knew.
So for me, that was kind of a big thing, I thought.
And I want to because I think if you did it, it did in me a little bit.
The rebellion part where
if you if you don't have good answers, you just kind of rebel.
Well, you know what?
That's not good enough for me.
I'm going to go do what I want to do.
Yeah, it's a little bit of a military thing, task and purpose.
But, you know, when you give instruction, you don't just give the task.
You explain the purpose. Right?
We need to do
we need to seize the objective so that we can drive through. Right.
But if you take that and apply it to parenting, it's
you're also teaching your kids critical thinking, right?
Because then they understand, oh, there is purpose behind what we're doing.
Honey, you need to do it this way
so that you don't break your foot or, you know, I mean, like, it's
so I try to do that, but it is also you got to
depending on their age, you've got to be a little creative
with how much, you know, purpose, explanation you give.
But that is a great point that
you can't just you can't just rest on your authority.
Right. That's not compassionate. That's not
that's not instilling trust in you in the future.
Right. If it's just. Well, do it because I said so.
You know, no one wants to work with or be with someone like that,
right?
I mean, there are certain times where you might disagree and,
you know, this is my house.
We're going to do it this way.
Whether you disagree with me or not.
But but I think it is helpful.
And my daughter kept me on task with that is always asking
why, why that?
Okay.
I guess I got to explain why I'm doing it this way so
well.
I think the greatest that you're mentioning, how
you're teaching them something or you're you're you apologize.
You're
sorry.
I'm trying to think your.
That's hard for granted now.
Yeah.
My brain's all over the place.
I thought, well, we'll edit this out, but
now we're leaving it in.
Just because you said we're going to cut it.
Yeah. No.
Is that your brother?
Was it because I have a brother?
Yeah, that's. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I'm no slack.
No slack from ground zero, so.
And every time
I'm sorry. I don't know.
I lost my train of thought. I'm done.
Oh, no worries.
Just. Well, so
given your experience, Rob,
and then now your kids are grown
in hindsight, looking back, what are what are
two or three things that you wish someone would have told you
as a young dad when you still at the time, you know, with them in the home that,
you know, it took you maybe longer to figure those things out
that you would have liked to learn quicker.
Yeah,
there's some regrets that I have with Little League and getting caught up
in the politics myself and trying to, you know,
it was so political.
I just look back and I cringe.
I feel bad because my son
and he shared this with me as he got older that he just wanted to make me proud,
even though I told him, Kyle, you know, if this isn't something you want to do,
I don't want you to feel like
we have to force it, you know, even though I did that to him,
he still didn't want to be a quitter or didn't want to, you know?
And so I wish I would have handled that a little bit differently.
I wish I would, you know, figured out a different way to communicate to him
that, hey, I still love you and I'm still proud of you
if you walk away from this because there was just so much, you know,
you know, and maybe I wish he would have golfed
instead of playing baseball, because playing baseball,
you have to rely on a coach to decide when you're going to play.
If you golf and you got the best score, you got to play me
even if you hate me, Coach, I'm the best golfer out here, you know?
So I think a single sport, tennis something like that,
I probably would have steered my kids more towards something like that
was my experience with tennis.
I was told by my coach my freshman year, you're probably not good enough.
I don't think this is going to work out.
And I'd beat enough players to get into the level and played varsity
my freshman year, so that would not have happened.
And you said you're not there, but the single sport gave me that opportunity.
So I did. I enjoyed that a lot. What a legend
in my own mind, of course.
Yeah, well, you did.
You were a pro for all of it. Yeah. Pro points, Right.
So yeah, I am a professional tennis player.
Yeah, I see a big, strong guy.
And so as you are, you played very, very well.
Thank you.
I will say that, yeah,
there is a brand any that about this
this guy he's probably got the kids
right behind of course in a whirlwind.
Yeah yeah. Now
that's the nice thing about the panel is we don't always have all four of us,
sometimes inside of us and you know, we all kind of back each other up.
So it works out well. Absolutely.
And you don't, you don't pout and buddy,
it's like,
did you have a question rated.
Okay.
Like I'm a I'm we can we can keep moving.
Yeah.
So, Rob, you know, what do you think
now they're on the other end of it too.
What what do you see that most fathers
are failing to do in our society?
That they that you wish you would see more of?
Well, I mean, present present fathers.
I think that that's a big thing.
I think a lot of people and I, I think there's a one thing I've really
come to come to understand, and this happened to me, too,
when I started to get into golf a little bit
when my kids were younger, a guy at work was getting kind of get me into golf.
And then I went and golfed and I was there for 5 hours
on a Saturday and I was like, not doing this again.
I don't I, I, I need to be with my family.
My family needs me.
I can't come out here and golf.
And so you can tell by my golf game that I'm not a very good golfer, but
I also give myself grace when I go golfing now because it's like, you know what?
I could be a great golfer, but I wouldn't be good at anything.
You know, my life would be falling apart.
But, boy, I offer that, you know, sub
sub 80 score.
I, you know, what sacrifices you make.
And I think it's so important to have balance in your life
and recognize what you're really supposed to do as a father.
What you're, you know, what you're called to do.
You can go play golf.
Just don't let it, you know, take away from the more important things or work.
You know, work is a you need it, you need money,
but you got to also keep it in perspective so that you don't,
you know, don't take time away from those kids schools.
Kids are going to be there for such a short window.
It's a blink of an eye.
My daughter's 31 and my son's 28.
I, I, I remember 28, you know, 28 was yesterday for me.
So it's it happens quick.
Yeah. And just real quick.
So golf is definitely a game if you want to teach your kids about failure,
boy, that game for it is extremely challenging.
I don't care how athletic somebody is.
I've never I've never just seen someone walk on to a golf course and be a natural,
I'll put it that way.
Other sports people can walk up, kill it.
That's it.
That's a sport that takes patience, it takes focus, it
takes, you know, all your not just physical.
And that's why I don't play it.
Yeah. It takes your mental energy as well.
And it's it's a beautiful sport and you said the word perfectly eighties
sub eighties is the hardest thing to do in the world.
You can have the best round of your life
and you get two or three putts on one hole.
Then you're out, you know, and it's it's so frustrating.
It's beautiful. We get to be funny to those golf. That's great. But yeah,
I would say
if kids are out there or dads, if you're out there looking for a sport,
put your kids in that you want to teach and patience, discipline and failure.
That's a great one.
And him and Rob talking about that kind of brings that up.
I mean, you want your kids to be involved, especially if you're going to spend
that kind of time somewhere.
Yeah, it is a very time consuming game.
It can be very rewarding as well.
So just my my $0.02 on, I can't wait for my son personally to play.
And my my father in law is excited about as well.
So we're golfers.
So you know, you're going to jinx yourself, man.
He's going to grow up and hate golf.
Best player. I mean, whatever.
They're going to do what they want to do.
And yeah, I mean, he can I mean, I'm sure my parents are like, what the heck?
When I was like, I want to do take one, too.
And they're like, what?
I was just like, out of the blue, I woke up one day.
I'm like, I'm doing it.
And I really did it. They laughed.
That's like, Oh, we did the actual.
Yeah, I hope son likes the same things as you.
Golf is tough, like you said, you know, but anybody could play tennis. So
just anybody can play pickleball.
Just kidding.
I'm not a lawyer.
So, you know, and I've transitioned to pickleball as we've gotten older.
It's a little bit less time consuming and everyone's really into it.
So it's been a lot of fun.
That's been I never thought I'd be a pickleball player,
you know, ten years ago I would have made fun of that guy.
But it's, you know, different seasons in your life.
You have different activities, you do.
So it's a lot of fun.
So everyone on it.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's super fun and it's easier to learn.
Yeah.
You know, golf tennis is six months before you can even, you know,
play a decent round and with pickleball you can share it and start playing.
So I had a single mom growing up, so I've always had, you know, kind of a
soft spot for, you know, for kids who don't have dads around.
Is there any part of your channel where you're specifically kind of
talking to two moms or two families that don't have a dad around?
Is that something that you think about when you're
putting your your channel together?
You know, I, I was pigeonholed
early on that my channel is for young men.
And people were saying, oh,
he's made this channel for young men and obviously trying to tie
three young men, you know, shaving, that's for young men.
But it's also for single moms, too, to show their
and I've had people write me letters, women write me and say, I'm so grateful
you showed my son how to shave because he was embarrassed.
He didn't know how to shave.
And we look, we watched your video together.
He went in the bathroom by himself, had your video on.
I waited outside and he watched your watch to do it again
and kind of walk you through it. So I tried to do things in real time.
And I also tried to do it where it's, you know, I'm not cutting out
stupid mistakes that I make, too, you know, because I think
you need to kind of leave those in where Oop, I forgot about that.
Like when I did my showerhead video and I spilled water on myself,
I forgot that there was still water in the loops,
but so
I think it is helpful to kind of have that stuff in for for people.
So my channels, for anybody and everybody, I hope I don't try to.
But the difficult thing is there are certain things
where I would like to speak to
a young man and I would or I would like to speak to a young woman.
And so trying to figure out the best way to do that, I don't I don't know.
I'm still trying to figure that out.
I plan on continuing my content as long as I feel like
I'm putting up good content for people, you know that
that is useful.
I see it.
And I've had people say,
Oh, you should be posting every day, you should post every day
to keep the algorithm going and you know what?
I'm not going to have the the tail wag the dog.
I you know, because we're right around retirement age,
I want to provide useful content.
I don't want to feel like a clown that, okay, I got to
I got to put out something today.
So what am I going to say?
And I'll just say something just to put up something.
I don't want it to be like that.
I want it to be useful content and I want it to be for anybody
and everybody that could use that could use some help.
I love that.
It's like when you have to prove that you're human to a computer,
you know, I'm like, offended by that.
Like, how dare you ask me?
And same thing, you know,
I'm not going to be a rodeo clown for an algorithm that you have.
And it sounds like you followed your own rules and it's worked really well for you.
You know, anytime you take someone else's advice
and try to be something you're not, that won't work.
Rob, Do you think if if the pandemic hadn't happened,
do you think your channel would have happened?
I know you can't obviously, you know, tell the future, but I'm curious
if that was really the catalyst
that made it happen or if it would have happened regardless.
Yeah, I think a lot of variables happened with that kind of caused it
maybe to blow up or people got wind of my background, my back story.
People were locked up too and had a little more time.
And there were, I think, you know,
we were hearing from celebrities and we were hearing from people
who we couldn't relate to tell us it was going to be okay
when they you know, they
their fridge refrigerators are stocked and they've got nothing to worry about.
So I think it was helpful having the pandemic, I think sadly,
and the pandemic sucked, but I'm grateful
that that's this was produced out of it.
So then it it's interesting to again, God's got a sense of humor
through this whole thing.
You know, I've done 1,000,001 interviews over
Zoom or over these different venues,
and so it helped me to get my feet underneath me when so when
I actually had to go to a live interview, I was headed
to, you know, again, as an introvert and avoiding speeches.
My whole life I was in sales and I, I was a master of only,
you know, avoiding big, you know, speaking engagements.
I would speak in front of two or three people because I had to with my job.
But it terrified me having to speak in front of 40 people.
And then when I was driving to New Day, New Day Northwest, the local channel,
and I was going to go in studio and sit down and be interviewed.
Yikes. That was that was pretty scary.
But because of the pandemic, you know, I, I got my feet underneath me
by just doing these things over and over again
to where I was on Hoda and Jenna
around Father's Day.
And that was it was a little scary.
A couple of years ago, I would have been way more scary.
I might have ran,
I might it might have been fight or flight and I might have flu. So
but I was able to kind of have some, you know,
good talks with myself and hang in there.
Yeah.
And you've already spoken to millions of people on your channel.
It's a very tight obviously the same is when they're really live in person.
So, yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, it's a little more intimidating when you have Hoda asking
you questions that you
will for real and Lester Holt And you know, I've had all kinds of
I mean that wasn't
Lester Holt wasn't live but still having these people that you're
you know household names actually talking to you is a little strange.
Definitely. Wow.
Just this out of curiosity, do you have like a favorite
video or episode of yours or whatever you want to call them
that you've done that just really sticks out to you
that you enjoyed the most or has a memory attached to it or something like that?
Yeah, yeah.
I like the how to tie a tie just because it was the first one.
I maybe that's an easy out, but it really
it was the first one and it got such
great kind of put me on the map so to speak.
I think that was the one that
kind of resonated with people.
And that's, that's, that was one of the hardest things
to learn in my prepubescent years, was trying to tie that in a bow.
I mean, I still have to look at YouTube every time I talk about.
So I've had
people say, I need the yeah, I need to show how to tie a bow tie.
And I said, This is practical advice.
A bow tie is not practical.
That's true.
I'm kidding. Again,
if if you like bow tie, guys.
Yeah, we apologize,
if any. Did you you just lost, like, 2 million subscribers.
Nothing is allowed. Justin just left the channel.
That's right.
I don't sometimes because I like.
I can't say that
that was part of my medical training.
I was almost 30 years old.
I did not know how to tie a tie.
And our professor came in and said, this is part of,
you know, being in medicine, you have to know how to do this.
And so I went through a YouTube video.
It was it was not you.
This was before
you got the gig, but it was from YouTube that I learned how to tie a tie.
And so I have very good memories from that as well.
Without that, I don't know if I would have gotten through my medical training.
So it is a really important thing.
Yeah, Yeah.
So all you guys wear bow ties.
Is that what you said You guys look like we did?
We're going to do an episode that we're all aware of.
Well, now we know now we have to.
We can do for our next for our New Year's episode.
So we all wore suits for our New Year's episode and we did an annual review.
We stole that idea from Cecile Bloom.
But you basically look at the year, it's actually a really great thing.
You look at the year in view, figure out what you instead
doing, like a New Year's resolution.
You know, kind of commend what you did,
double down on those things this coming year.
And anyway so well we'll have to now remember you and get bow ties
and go totally over the top for our next New Year's episode.
So I do wear a bow tie in uniform.
When you wear you blues, you got to put your vote on.
But that's I do not do the self on I get the premade one that comes
with the uniform that has a little click to set the easy way out.
That's the lady my brother.
The army's all about efficiency when you can, you know.
So ultimate person thank you for your service oh oh tie
from would be Alton Brown He's the famous chef guy
he teaches people how to tie bow because that's all he wears.
And so he's on he's on a lot of channels and he does his his
other than just teaching like extremely good science behind cooking,
he'll also teach you how to type both tests.
There we go.
Now everyone needs a bow tie. They can go to that channel.
But for everything else, you can go to Rob.
There you to Rob.
What do you want to talk about your book a little bit and officially plug it.
And I think I've got it pulled up.
It's on HarperCollins, right?
That the right place to take it is. Yeah.
William Morrow, the division of HarperCollins.
You can get it on Amazon or Barnes and Noble.
All right.
Well, some I'm pulling it up. There we go.
That's it right there.
Right, Right. Yep.
So, yeah.
So tell us a little bit on my back story and then there are some nuggets
at the back too.
I have 58 how tos
because I was told to do 50 and I thought I'm going to put in eight more
that way is some if people have a problem that wasn't helpful.
Okay, well, there's eight more. There's some bonus ones for you.
So because, you know, people always find something and I even did
the books of the Bible and kind of walk through the books of the Bible again.
Well, if that didn't help you because that you're not a believer
or what, what have you, then you can fill in with one of the other eight.
So anyway, yeah, that's it.
It tells kind of my back story of and I walk you through my siblings
and I pick one character
trait from each sibling that I think is helpful for people.
And so I talk with my about my sister Mary and I talk about family,
the importance of family.
And then I talk about my brother Tim.
I talk about the importance of having a backbone
because you don't want to be a milquetoast.
It's important to stand up for yourself when you need to.
And then I talk about a work ethic
with my brother Rick, the importance of having a good work ethic.
And I talk about being an encourager
with my sister Lori, and then my brother Joe.
I talk about not hesitating.
You need to, you know,
people get paralyzed, analysis, paralysis and don't ever make a move.
And they have all these ideas and they never do anything.
And then meanwhile, their life passes them by
because they never jumped in and actually did something.
And then my brother Don, I talk about
being generous, the importance of generosity.
So was going to walk through that.
I love that.
How you how you tied it to all the different,
you know, your siblings.
And it's it's more than just advice.
It's very, you know, personalized.
That's a pretty cool way of doing it.
Yeah.
My 50th birthday party, I shared that I went around and
shared basically what it shared in my book I talked about because
we had to rely on each other, You know, that was the reality of our lives.
I had to learn a lot of things from my siblings.
So that got a little awkward because my dad was there for my 50th birthday
and I didn't I wasn't trying to slight him.
I was just trying to honor my siblings.
And so it did get a little weird.
Well, you know,
sometimes those things are earned and it's not necessarily being cruel.
It's just the reality of the situation.
So well made it more awkward as my sister Mary ended up saying.
And do you have any saint thing to say about dad?
Like,
No, no, no, I just want to keep it
about siblings. So.
Right. Yeah.
She felt horrible.
So within
within teaching you all the values and lessons throughout your life,
what was one of the most important ones that your your siblings
taught you?
I'd say the family thing was such a big thing
because I was ready to jettison really I,
I was kind of like I just
wanted to kind of move away and kind of do my own thing
because I just was so fed up with things and
my sister Mary and I share that in my book.
My sister kept writing me writing the postcards and stuff and like,
okay, somebody actually does care whether I'm around or not because I,
I was going
I was going to join the military, had talked
about joining the Navy and going on a ship somewhere just to kind of
get away and, you know, process things.
So I think that was huge.
I mean, it's hard to boil it down to any one thing.
I think a big part was I always felt kind of accountable to talk to them.
You know, if I was a single kid
and things happened, I might have just done whatever.
But I always felt like I was kind of accountable to to somebody.
All of that, that yeah,
that sense of belonging with your siblings.
Right.
Made you all tight knit group
question about fatherhood.
And it's what is kind of the funniest or craziest story
you had where either your kids did something or you were with them.
And it was a a fun
dad story with the kids and the whole family.
Whatever something those lines.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of how I can narrow it down to the one thing.
What the first thing that popped in my mind.
This is kind of a little strange, but I used to get up, you know, Again,
speaking of spending time with my family, I used to get up early to work out
because I wanted to stay in shape and I'd get up super early.
And this is back when I had hair and I used to go in the garage to work out
and I was in there working out and it was in the morning, so I didn't care.
My hair was kind of flyin again
when I had her, so I came in from the garage in my daughters.
My daughter's bedroom was right there and she looked at me and she goes,
Is it Wendy?
I was like
getting blown around.
So did you have it down, like to your shoulders or something,
or was it just it just got all it was like that had just stayed over.
It was pretty long, but it was Yeah,
yeah. Because I didn't care.
I was in my garage working out so it didn't matter.
I didn't think anybody's going to see me.
But then when I came in, she,
she put two and two together and figured I was out in the wind.
It's amazing.
You got to love how kids kind of interpret things
and, you know, kind of add their own flair to it, everything.
And, you know, for us, that's such a leap. Is it windy outside?
Yeah.
There's those those little moments like that are always just amazing.
There's a funny Little League story, too, of my son.
He was again, there are a lot of politics and stuff
and he he finally hit a home run and we were in the
it was in the playoffs, too, and he hit a home run
and he was so excited about it that
and then he's in the dugout after he hit his home run.
And then there's only two there's two outs or there's one out.
Then there was an out made.
My son comes running out thinking because he couldn't wait to see me
and he's run on the field.
There's only two outs he needs to get back in the dugout.
So that was I did my car to hit my home run.
A good moment of hitting the home run where
so. Right.
That's all that mattered. He had his own run.
He couldn't wait to get out and have people applaud him or something.
I don't know.
It's pretty it's sad because it kind of took away from this cool moment
where he hit this home run.
That's funny,
Rob, Where where can everyone find you
who's not already subscribed?
Yeah.
So I have a YouTube channel called Dad. How do I.
And then I have my
my Facebook is Dad.
How do I and my Instagram is dad.
How do I and I'm also on TikTok
at the real dad.
How do I Because somebody was pretending to be me.
So I had to change names for that.
Otherwise it's just dad, how do I And you can find it pretty much anywhere.
And I came up with that name.
We didn't share that. I came up with that names.
I pictured one of my kids in the other room saying, Dad, how do I.
That's that's where he came up with it.
All righty.
Well, Rob, it was a true pleasure to speak with you.
I, I think your authenticity
is just so refreshing and we appreciate your wisdom
here on the podcast with our listeners and with us.
And for everyone listening and watching, go subscribe.
If you're not already subscribed to this channel, lots of great stuff,
you know, And like you were saying, not just advice.
It's also a lot of heartfelt kind of wisdom and things like that.
So just great channel, really good one to have in your back pocket.
And, you know, like Dustin
and he need to learn how to do basic things that men need to know how to do.
You can correct yourself so,
Ravi, do you have any closing thoughts for for the for the audience?
No. I appreciate what you guys are doing because, you know, dads are so important.
And I think being a dad is a cool thing.
It's a gift.
And it's such an opportunity to be able to pour into the next generation.
So keep on keeping on.
It's it's so important and we need to help, you know, get rid of the whole
Al Bundy Homer Simpson stereotype of a dad where
we're a bunch of buffoons, We're we're needed.
We're important, and we need to encourage each other.
Amen.
Thank you for that.
That's so important.
Yeah.
Yeah. Thank you, Rob.
It's been. It's been a real pleasure.
You've got four new fans
right here and probably all the wives, too.
But just really appreciate you coming on, just being so open with us.
And thank you all.
I hope that God continues to keep using you and reaching others and,
you know, helping
those who didn't have a father figure around to figure out a lot of things.
It's just a beautiful, beautiful way to connect with people.
All right.
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